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rickair7777 08-22-2020 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by pangolin (Post 3113636)
But it’s national infrastructure. Kinda like the airlines... oh wait.

It could be replaced by FDX, UPS, etc. Or at least have to compete with them. No reason USPS should have a government monopoly in the modern era.

galaxy flyer 08-22-2020 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by FetaCheese (Post 3113756)
The founding fathers specifically mentioned airlines as part of the national infrastructure. John Adams himself was a huge supporter of air travel.

I just got this text from T. Jefferson on post offices and post roads. He’s against the idea.

[QUOTEHave you considered all the consequences of your proposition respecting post roads? I view it as a source of boundless patronage to the executive, jobbing to members of Congress & their friends, and a bottomless abyss of public money. You will begin by only appropriating the surplus of the post office revenues; but the other revenues will soon be called into their aid, ][/QUOTE]

flyinawa 08-22-2020 08:22 AM

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senecacaptain 08-22-2020 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3113946)
It could be replaced by FDX, UPS, etc. Or at least have to compete with them. No reason USPS should have a government monopoly in the modern era.

they do compete with UPS and FDX. And also help them. https://www.uspsoig.gov/blog/cooperative-competitors

"Modern era" (defined?). Congress decided that every should have equal access to mail service. Hence a mailbox at, or close to, every residence in America. You do not have a FDX or UPS drop box at every residence

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/...postal-service

United Airlines (and others) is flying some cargo flights, and helping keep pilots in the air, with US Mail being part of the cargo. They don't fly UPS or FDX boxes. https://hub.united.com/united-cargo-...645563015.html

sanicom3205 08-22-2020 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3113946)
It could be replaced by FDX, UPS, etc. Or at least have to compete with them. No reason USPS should have a government monopoly in the modern era.

What do you say to the people of rural America, who would lose access to mail because they’re live in areas that are not profitable to deliver to?

Why doesn’t the military have to compete with private entities? Why are they not expected to turn a profit?

Mozam 08-22-2020 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3114010)
What do you say to the people of rural America, who would lose access to mail because they’re live in areas that are not profitable to deliver to?

Why doesn’t the military have to compete with private entities? Why are they not expected to turn a profit?

I believe they are turning a profit, you are not speaking Chinese as your first language.

sanicom3205 08-22-2020 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Mozam (Post 3114017)
I believe they are turning a profit, you are not speaking Chinese as your first language.

Funny! Especially coming from someone who doesn’t know what profit means.

By your (and only your) definition, the post office turns a profit by delivering essential goods such as medication to people who otherwise would not have mail service. Thanks for the help

tallpilot 08-22-2020 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3114010)
What do you say to the people of rural America, who would lose access to mail because they’re live in areas that are not profitable to deliver to?

Why doesn’t the military have to compete with private entities? Why are they not expected to turn a profit?

Would you please show me a map of the places in rural America that FedEx and UPS don't deliver to?

If somebody wants to send a bill or a legal document to farmer John they can pay $5 to do it. The clowns sending junk mail for $.05/piece can get bent.

The military is part of the government; the USPS despite having United States in the name is not part of the government neither is FEDERAL express or the FEDERAL reserve. Hence they need to make profits or eventually go out of business.

sanicom3205 08-22-2020 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3114048)
Would you please show me a map of the places in rural America that FedEx and UPS don't deliver to?

If somebody wants to send a bill or a legal document to farmer John they can pay $5 to do it. The clowns sending junk mail for $.05/piece can get bent.

The military is part of the government; the USPS despite having United States in the name is not part of the government neither is FEDERAL express or the FEDERAL reserve. Hence they need to make profits or eventually go out of business.

The USPS is an independent agency of the executive branch of the United States government. It’s explicitly authorized by the constitution.


Please, tell us more though!

DesertDog 08-22-2020 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3114075)
The USPS is an independent agency of the executive branch of the United States government. It’s explicitly authorized by the constitution.


Please, tell us more though!

Some other agencies that don't make a profit:
ICE, FBI, VA, USAF, CDC, NIH, USN, U.S. Senate, U.S. Congress, POTUS, etc. etc.
Like Malaria spent $600,000 over 2 months going to NYC for hair appointments...


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