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Saabs 07-11-2020 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Bungalow (Post 3090274)
Furloughs are coming fellows, big ones. For whatever the reason, legitimate or not, they're here. Ignoring the facts, doesn't make them go away. Get the house in order.

wouldn’t say something is here when there is currently none of said something. In the future, yes. But not seeing that as being “here”.

sanicom3205 07-12-2020 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by Bungalow (Post 3090274)
Furloughs are coming fellows, big ones. For whatever the reason, legitimate or not, they're here. Ignoring the facts, doesn't make them go away. Get the house in order.

Weird to say this, when in fact not a single furlough letter has been sent at this company.

thrust 07-12-2020 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Bungalow (Post 3090274)
Furloughs are coming fellows, big ones. For whatever the reason, legitimate or not, they're here. Ignoring the facts, doesn't make them go away. Get the house in order.

Love these “get your house in order” posts. I was just about to pull the trigger on a new house/boat/Miata/spouse/plane, and had no idea a furlough was coming. Thankfully, I stumbled upon some random person’s post, which was the exact catalyst I needed to suddenly take this seriously.

rickair7777 07-12-2020 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3090392)
Weird to say this, when in fact not a single furlough letter has been sent at this company.

Mass furlough letters and their timing can affect stock prices and credit ratings (possibly good or bad).

No company will send letters sooner than the minimum legal/contractual timeline, unless they have an ulterior motive for that.

Dobbs18 07-12-2020 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3090412)
Mass furlough letters and their timing can affect stock prices and credit ratings (possibly good or bad).

No company will send letters sooner than the minimum legal/contractual timeline, unless they have an ulterior motive for that.

The WARN requirement is for a 90 day notice to the best of my knowledge, so thats puts the earliest furlough possibility at like Oct 15th if they are received this week. And to the people that said we(AA pilots) said we wouldnt have to furlough bc of VPLOAs, that is just ridiculous, all anybody with a brain said was that they would help mitigate the number down. My best guess is 2,000 are sent out because why would they undercut the number?? its going to suck when they go out and i am kind of pist bc i would have taking a LOA in Aug but none were offered for my category!!!

Surprise 07-12-2020 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3090401)
Love these “get your house in order” posts. I was just about to pull the trigger on a new house/boat/Miata/spouse/plane, and had no idea a furlough was coming. Thankfully, I stumbled upon some random person’s post, which was the exact catalyst I needed to suddenly take this seriously.

That’s exactly what I would have said, but you win because I slept in today. When did the Miata become the official car of APC, anyway?

MasterOfPuppets 07-12-2020 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Surprise (Post 3090453)
That’s exactly what I would have said, but you win because I slept in today. When did the Miata become the official car of APC, anyway?

because Delta said so

Arado 234 07-12-2020 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3090401)
Love these “get your house in order” posts. I was just about to pull the trigger on a new house/boat/Miata/spouse/plane, and had no idea a furlough was coming. Thankfully, I stumbled upon some random person’s post, which was the exact catalyst I needed to suddenly take this seriously.

Oh. No. You. Didn't.

You put Miata in the same sentence with boat, spouse and plane.

May Rickair have Mercy on your poor soul!

Dobbs18 07-12-2020 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3090412)
Mass furlough letters and their timing can affect stock prices and credit ratings (possibly good or bad).

No company will send letters sooner than the minimum legal/contractual timeline, unless they have an ulterior motive for that.

The WARN requirement is for a 90 day notice to the best of my knowledge, so thats puts the earliest furlough possibility at like Oct 15th if they are received this week. And to the people that said we(AA pilots) said we wouldnt have to furlough bc of VPLOAs, that is just ridiculous, all anybody with a brain said was that they would help mitigate the number down. My best guess is 2,000 are sent out because why would they undercut the number?? its going to suck when they go out and i am kind of pist bc i would have taking a LOA in Aug but none were offered for my category!!!

jetlaggy 07-12-2020 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Dobbs18 (Post 3090466)
The WARN requirement is for a 90 day notice to the best of my knowledge, so thats puts the earliest furlough possibility at like Oct 15th if they are received this week. And to the people that said we(AA pilots) said we wouldnt have to furlough bc of VPLOAs, that is just ridiculous, all anybody with a brain said was that they would help mitigate the number down. My best guess is 2,000 are sent out because why would they undercut the number?? its going to suck when they go out and i am kind of pist bc i would have taking a LOA in Aug but none were offered for my category!!!


The Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act (WARN)protects workers, their families, and communities by requiring employers with 100 or more employees (generally not counting those who have worked less than six months in the last 12 months and those who work an average of less than 20 hours a week) to provide at least 60 calendar days advance written notice of a plant closing and mass layoff affecting 50 or more employees at a single site of employment. WARN makes certain exceptions to the requirements when layoffs occur due to unforeseeable business circumstances, faltering companies, and natural disasters. Advance notice gives workers and their families some transition time to adjust to the prospective loss of employment, to seek and obtain other jobs, and if necessary, to enter skill training or retraining that will allow these workers to compete successfully in the job market. Regular federal, state, local, and federally-recognized Indian Tribal government entities that provide public services are not covered.


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