I think it's generational. Hopefully, those fukkers are gone soon. Not sure if it is just my luck, but it seems that many Masterbasers are generally douches (AA and US).

 

My thoughts exactly. This whole experience with a looming furlough has changed the way I think. I’m in a good position to weather this, but I can’t imagine having kids and a mortgage, college payments etc. I feel for these guys. I come from an airline family and I understand many guys have been through the ringer, but to go through any type of hardship and come away thinking that it’s some type of right of passage and to feel no sympathy is pathetic.

I think the new cadre will be better human beings.

 

Yeah, I don't get some of these older generation guys. It's almost like they want everyone to go through as much suffering as possible to make themselves feel better.

And I'm one of those in a bad position. We don't live outside our means at all. Still live in the same house we bought when I was a regional FO. Down to one car payment, one credit card, and one son in private school.
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If the worst happens and I get furloughed though, I'm done. House will have to be sold. Son pulled from school. I've been looking for jobs outside aviation-because that's all we can realistically hope for-and I'll be lucky to make $17 an hour. That's just a little over $2,000 a month. Assuming my wife (who'll have to go back to work) makes the same..that's a whopping $4,000 per month. Working a 9 to 5 or retail job.

Yeah..it's BS. And the lack of sympathy makes it worse. The feeling that nobody outside the furlough group gives a F* twists the knife even further. This isn't a game. It isn't funny. Senior guys making north of $300,000 for multiple years now wouldn't miss a beat by lowering the ALV, or lowering RSV guarantee.. anything that would save their fellow pilots.

But no. They'd rather drink their beers, trim their walrus moustaches while chuckling about us "paying our dues". I can't wait for our generation of pilots to replace them.

 

You would hope there’d be change, but I wonder how many of those guys were like you in the beginning, then turned.

 

Still trying to figure out why you hate Alta Mesa Resources so much...

 

FWIW, the vast majority of pilots I fly with are relatively rational, understanding human beings. The geriatric sociopaths that yell at clouds on The Line are the very vocal outliers. I take everything that’s said there with a massive grain of salt.

From perusing the DAL and SWA forums here at APC, it sounds like they have similar headcases on their union boards/Facebook as well. It’s not limited to just AA.

 

So one must hate the current company only and not the previous company? Sorry, I missed that memo, I will create a new screen name to reflect hate towards the new company that hasn’t done anything wrong to me because you’re offended. I wish the TOC would just spell out that I need to create a new screen name every time AA goes bankrupt. Douchebag.

 

Soooooo, should we add Saabs to list? Sheesh.

 

I think it may be age and/or seniority related, but don't think it's generational.

I have seen the same thing over and over in my career. When someone is under the gun , they are willing to do whatever. When they aren't, they don't care. Not everyone, but a lot.

How many junior guys gave a flip about the seniority situation? I had a 20 something telling me how great his career was going to be and that us geezers needed to "just get over" the seniority issues. It didn't affect him, he didn't care. I won't hold that, and the many derogatory comments I've heard about my group on here, change my attitude. I want us all to have a job.

 

Did you see Texas pilot(or whatever his screen name is) say that reducing the ALV was a concession and he was out? Not sure how old he is, but don't think he's too senior.

I'm thinking most guys posting on here these days are junior, but many read it. Be careful about crapping on those that you might need.