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Originally Posted by Saabs
(Post 3104875)
It does not allow furlough out of seniority. As long as everyone senior to them requests a zero line instead of a furlough then there is no furlough out of seniority order.
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Originally Posted by FetaCheese
(Post 3104888)
Jesus people. Semantics. One way or another picking up open time or putting yourself on the MU list would directly take away potential hours from pilots who are making zero. I would like to believe that "unity" would prevent that from happening, but I know better. So it needs to be discouraged somehow.
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Originally Posted by Dobbs18
(Post 3104889)
ok so what happens when that doesn't happen??? furloughs out of seniority?!!
Then those senior people are not getting furloughed out of seniority as they had the option to click the box. They just want a furlough over a no credit line or they would have checked the box like those junior to them. |
Originally Posted by rcflying53
(Post 3104893)
Guys are wound tight right now so word choices are important. I get what you were trying to say. Basically you mean: help each other without screwing each other. Easy enough.
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Originally Posted by FetaCheese
(Post 3104888)
Jesus people. Semantics. One way or another picking up open time or putting yourself on the MU list would directly take away potential hours from pilots who are making zero. I would like to believe that "unity" would prevent that from happening, but I know better. So it needs to be discouraged somehow.
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Originally Posted by Saabs
(Post 3104897)
It shouldn’t be discouraged. Again, I can drop my entire 75 hr line to people on zero time and ride the makeup list to 55 hours. That helps the people making zero. Im on the makeup list most of the time and usually end up with less hours than I’m awarded via PBS. It’s a QOL enhancer.
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Originally Posted by FetaCheese
(Post 3104898)
Part of my original post was that AA needs to allow everyone to freely drop their trips with no Red/Redder restrictions. That would greatly help everyone on both sides.
Agreed, but that will probably never happen as it’s a control thing. That being said, if there are enough takers for zero time lines I’d imagine that it would be easy to post a trip and have it picked up easily. |
Originally Posted by Saabs
(Post 3104899)
Agreed, but that will probably never happen as it’s a control thing. That being said, if there are enough takers for zero time lines I’d imagine that it would be easy to post a trip and have it picked up easily.
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Originally Posted by Saabs
(Post 3104895)
Then those senior people are not getting furloughed out of seniority as they had the option to click the box. They just want a furlough over a no credit line or they would have checked the box like those junior to them.
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Originally Posted by Dobbs18
(Post 3104931)
Seniority isn't something you should have to check a box in order to keep, IMHO. The BOD undermined one of the bedrocks of this industry right from under us, you watch, someone will get screwed by this. A persons seniority is theirs and theirs alone and BOD shouldn't have the power to sell it down the river under any so called circumstances, period.
Hopefully this person you’re worried about is smart enough to check that box. APA is giving people the option of what they want. I guess giving people the option doesn’t make you / some people happy. It made the negotiating team happy enough for a unanimous vote in favor. It’s in plain English and easy to understand. I haven’t ventured over to CNR but if I had to guess the senior people are saying what you are and don’t quite understand it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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