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Old 10-06-2020, 12:21 PM
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We still have the separate Airline Relief Bill which has enough support in both houses to pass. So it's not entirely over for us. They just need to put this for a vote quick.
Quick ain’t happening.
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Old 10-06-2020, 01:19 PM
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And who suffers in the mean time??? That's correct. The people.
I'm not disagreeing with you here, but what I'm saying is that he's predictable and because of that, I wouldn't count on this being the end of it. Remember the last time he played tough and encouraged the government shutdown back in January 2019, the ultimatums, etc., and remember what happened? As much as I dislike Pelosi, she's a much better dancer than Trump and she owned him in that rendition of the Potomac Two-Step.

Did you see the video footage from his return to the White House last night? Dude landed on the lawn, walked up the steps and visibly was struggling to breath after taking his mask off and tweeting that we shouldn't be afraid and that COVID is about the same as the seasonal flu (while also taking high dose IV remdesivir, dexamethasone and an experimental antibody cocktail; a drug therapy combination that literally a few people in the entire world have access to right now). The White House could be on fire and he'd stand in it and look you in the eyes and say it's fine, until it's time to jump out of the window. His strategy has always been and will always be the ego-driven tough guy who projects strength. It is what it is, and nothing he says or does on social media should ever be taken at face value.
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Old 10-06-2020, 01:31 PM
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Never mind, folks. F my life. Tweeter in chief just burned all of us.
So did Pelosi. Or are you wearing blinders? She's asking for the Feds to bail out the Govs who locked down an entire economy to protect the healthy from a virus that is at least 99.6 % survivable. 1.6T is more than enough for now. Wake up.
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Old 10-06-2020, 01:35 PM
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So did Pelosi. Or are you wearing blinders? She's asking for the Feds to bail out the Govs who locked down an entire economy to protect the healthy from a virus that is at least 99.6 % survivable. 1.6T is more than enough for now. Wake up.

Well then vote her out also. 🧐
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Without unnecessary doom and gloom just for doom's sake, realistically I see recalls starting around fall of 2021. At a rate of 100 per month, give or take..that's roughly 16 months for all furloughs to be recalled from the moment recalls begin. So about a year on furlough for guys at the top of the 1600. About 2.5 years for guys at the bottom.
That sounds about reasonable. By 2024/2025, AA will start hiring flows and OTS again.
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Well then vote her out also. 🧐
You first, but I doubt you're doing that right laggy?
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Old 10-06-2020, 01:40 PM
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That sounds about reasonable. By 2024/2025, AA will start hiring flows and OTS again.
Its much too soon to say what AA is going to do. I think the pandemic will be raging well into 2021 and travel will remain suppressed far below 2019 levels for a long time to come. Maybe we begin to see a recovery by the end of 2021 with widespread vaccine availability and distribution. But how adjusted will people and businesses be to not traveling at that point? The world just changed, specifically for the travel and airline industries. No one knows just yet what this is going to look like at the end of the tunnel. And we haven’t even started to see the light yet.
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But how adjusted will people and businesses be to not traveling at that point? The world just changed, specifically for the travel and airline industries.
This exact same thing was said after 9/11. Air travel was never going to recover as people would never forget the memories of airplanes being used as human occupied missiles. The fear caused by those memories and the inconvenience of TSA would forever stifle business and leisure travel. The rhetoric is old. In reality, air travel eventually reached record passenger count numbers never before seen in commercial aviation. Those numbers would have been realized sooner had it not been for the recession.

This too shall pass. Will it take a few years? Of course. But to say that air travel has changed forever is ridiculous.
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Its much too soon to say what AA is going to do. I think the pandemic will be raging well into 2021 and travel will remain suppressed far below 2019 levels for a long time to come. Maybe we begin to see a recovery by the end of 2021 with widespread vaccine availability and distribution. But how adjusted will people and businesses be to not traveling at that point? The world just changed, specifically for the travel and airline industries. No one knows just yet what this is going to look like at the end of the tunnel. And we haven’t even started to see the light yet.
Pretty sure it’s chapter 11 time.
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Pretty sure it’s chapter 11 time.
Best case scenario.
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