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Old 10-06-2020 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Pretty sure it’s chapter 11 time.
Who is going to provide DIP financing for that?

Even with all our debt wiped clean we would still be losing tens of millions per day. A judge couldn't even get us to profitable right now if he cut everyone's salary in half.
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Old 10-06-2020 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew_VT
Who is going to provide DIP financing for that?

Even with all our debt wiped clean we would still be losing tens of millions per day. A judge couldn't even get us to profitable right now if he cut everyone's salary in half.
Why does everyone think that the govt would never allow another big merger, but would sit back and let one or more major carriers liquidate?
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Old 10-06-2020 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bababouey
Why does everyone think that the govt would never allow another big merger, but would sit back and let one or more major carriers liquidate?
I truly believe the fate of AA lies in the hands of the government at this point. How do you exit bankruptcy without a plan for profitability? No amount of restructuring of debt or cutting of salaries solves the inherent problem. And right now by the looks of it things aren’t getting better quick enough for everyone to survive. Even a merger doesn’t solve the problem.
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Old 10-06-2020 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew_VT
Who is going to provide DIP financing for that?

Even with all our debt wiped clean we would still be losing tens of millions per day. A judge couldn't even get us to profitable right now if he cut everyone's salary in half.
In BK you have to give something up. Won’t be the same coming out as going in. Not to mention contracts will be renegotiated. I would expect about 30% smaller.
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Old 10-07-2020 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bababouey
Why does everyone think that the govt would never allow another big merger, but would sit back and let one or more major carriers liquidate?


When the end game will either be close the doors or merge ,the DOJ will allow another big merger . To not understand this is to not understand big government.
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Old 10-07-2020 | 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FetaCheese
Never mind, folks. F my life. Tweeter in chief just burned all of us.
MAGA !

Make American Go Away !

... no I don’t believe that will happen and I don’t want it to happen ... my nephew was in the first group furloughed.Good kid.

I think I’m going to go ahead and do an early VOTE.
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Old 10-07-2020 | 03:03 AM
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So did Pelosi. Or are you wearing blinders? She's asking for the Feds to bail out the Govs who locked down an entire economy to protect the healthy from a virus that is at least 99.6 % survivable. 1.6T is more than enough for now. Wake up.
Your screen name says all I need to know ...
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Old 10-07-2020 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Huell
MAGA !

Make American Go Away !

... no I don’t believe that will happen and I don’t want it to happen ... my nephew was in the first group furloughed.Good kid.

I think I’m going to go ahead and do an early VOTE.
You really are something else, sir. Damn.
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Old 10-07-2020 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bababouey
Why does everyone think that the govt would never allow another big merger, but would sit back and let one or more major carriers liquidate?
how would a merger help? Mergers take years and require upfront capital to invest in the merger process. To my knowledge there is not a single airline even close to making money right now (regionals aside) so I doubt much would be gained in a merger right now.

CH11 could happen but there would have to be a rebound in flying so AA can generate the cash flows needed to run the business but not necessarily service it’s debt.
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Old 10-07-2020 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
CH11 could happen but there would have to be a rebound in flying so AA can generate the cash flows needed to run the business but not necessarily service it’s debt.
If there’s no rebound in flying it’s all academic anyway, for all of us.
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