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Old 10-08-2020 | 08:52 AM
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The original plan for this country back in 1792 was for the Federal government to tax and pay for its responsibilities and for the states and local governments to tax and pay for theirs. We would be FAR better off if we had stuck to that plan.
​​​​​​Agreed. Just don't do thinking that 'The laboratory of the States' is a partisan thing. Supposedly 'states rights' Republicans will forget their ideology in 2 seconds when California enacts tougher emissions standards.
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Old 10-08-2020 | 08:58 AM
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​​​​​​Agreed. Just don't do thinking that 'The laboratory of the States' is a partisan thing. Supposedly 'states rights' Republicans will forget their ideology in 2 seconds when California enacts tougher emissions standards.

As long as California doesn't violate the commerce clause by restricting trucking companies and motorists from other states to their regulations there would be no problem.
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Old 10-08-2020 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
As long as California doesn't violate the commerce clause by restricting trucking companies and motorists from other states to their regulations there would be no problem.
Ha, NOW conservatives like the commerce clause :-)
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Old 10-08-2020 | 11:06 AM
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You went from talking about money to political power. You also just made the smaller states getting more than their fair share into a bad thing (so thanks for that).

The irony is that the poor red states are already overrepresented politically due to things like Wyoming getting the same 2 senators as California. We should give them 6 senators and keep CA at 2 in order to fix this problem you've identified. We can call it affirmative action.
I note the sarcasm.

But one thing many are not aware is the 2 senators per state is the one thing the constitution says cannot be amended, ever.

Carry on your emotional based rants.
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Old 10-08-2020 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Andrew_VT
Ha, NOW conservatives like the commerce clause :-)

Conservatives, no idea. Classical Liberals, you know Libertarians, yes we understand what it was meant to do. California is free to enact any legislation they see fit. Their citizens can vote with their feet if they don't like the rules. Conversely people in other states who agree with their policies can move in. The commerce clause prevents them from exporting those policies to other states via restricting free trade and travel to those who aren't residents and don't conform. Simple and elegant.

We classical liberals do hate it though when activist courts use that clause to step in and enact legislation that is not the role of the Federal government in the first place. The courts are not supposed to enable the subversion of the constitution. They are supposed to apply the constitution to the law, nothing more.
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Old 10-08-2020 | 12:53 PM
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Old 10-08-2020 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
I note the sarcasm.

But one thing many are not aware is the 2 senators per state is the one thing the constitution says cannot be amended, ever.

Carry on your emotional based rants.
then they will just add more states, I wonder how dc and pr will vote?
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Old 10-08-2020 | 05:04 PM
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So how long is this furlough going to last?

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Old 10-08-2020 | 05:10 PM
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So how long is this furlough going to last?

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Until the government passes the stimulus bill.
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Old 10-08-2020 | 05:31 PM
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Until the government passes the stimulus bill.
Just trying to get this thread back on track.

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