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LabDad06 01-04-2021 11:43 AM

I did fly for a regional and Covid struck before I could start at AA. Not getting into the lack of $$$ flying professionally right now, I simply miss flying just to fly. Staying current flying GA for fun here and there, but nothing like those fun time building days.

THKooj 01-04-2021 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Finessed (Post 3177636)
You need to work on your grammar. Envoy, PSA, and Piedmont have “flow” programs in their contract.

The hiring standards working at either of the 3 regionals listed above is not even relatively close compared to the standards held for off the street hires at American Airlines.

Wrong. Have you ever worked in recruiting? The Envoy process mimics the AA interview and entire process almost like a mirror. Envoy is hiring an AA pilot thus the reason the interviews are much, much tougher than say some run of the mill regional like Republic or Skywest. Envoy developed the pipeline cadet program to bring in the most highly qualified applicants that exist and it has done a stellar job.

I don't wish any ill will toward military pilots but the pipeline cadet is the wave of the future. Get used today's pipeline pilot being the military hire of the 80s and 90s. Pipeline pilots are trained specifically for 121 and are far more ready than military pilots when they hit the line at Envoy.

say again 01-04-2021 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3177824)
Wrong. Have you ever worked in recruiting? The Envoy process mimics the AA interview and entire process almost like a mirror. Envoy is hiring an AA pilot thus the reason the interviews are much, much tougher than say some run of the mill regional like Republic or Skywest. Envoy developed the pipeline cadet program to bring in the most highly qualified applicants that exist and it has done a stellar job.

I don't wish any ill will toward military pilots but the pipeline cadet is the wave of the future. Get used today's pipeline pilot being the military hire of the 80s and 90s. Pipeline pilots are trained specifically for 121 and are far more ready than military pilots when they hit the line at Envoy.

BS. Not even close to the caliber of mainline AA, unless their standards have tanked.

Finessed 01-04-2021 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3177824)
Wrong. Have you ever worked in recruiting? The Envoy process mimics the AA interview and entire process almost like a mirror. Envoy is hiring an AA pilot thus the reason the interviews are much, much tougher than say some run of the mill regional like Republic or Skywest. Envoy developed the pipeline cadet program to bring in the most highly qualified applicants that exist and it has done a stellar job.

I don't wish any ill will toward military pilots but the pipeline cadet is the wave of the future. Get used today's pipeline pilot being the military hire of the 80s and 90s. Pipeline pilots are trained specifically for 121 and are far more ready than military pilots when they hit the line at Envoy.

I actually applaud your response. I’ve never read so many blatantly false statements in a single post in any forum, bravo 👏. You’re in the wrong business my friend, Washington D.C. could use your talents.

sanicom3205 01-04-2021 02:57 PM

Trolls gettin trolled. You love to see it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXgzgTYTmEY&t=4s

This is why we need ALPA. Pathetic

watch 01-05-2021 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3177824)
Envoy developed the pipeline cadet program to bring in the most highly qualified applicants that exist and it has done a stellar job.
Pipeline pilots are trained specifically for 121 and are far more ready than military pilots when they hit the line at Envoy.

Wow. That's bad news for FedEx and Delta, then. American will have all the best pilots, and everyone else will have the dregs of aviation: the off-the-street fighter / bomber / cargo military pilots, corporate captains, and non-flow LCAs from regionals. Truly a "b" scale at all those places soon, if you're correct. They might as well fold their operations now.

sanicom3205 01-05-2021 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by watch (Post 3177982)
Wow. That's bad news for FedEx and Delta, then. American will have all the best pilots, and everyone else will have the dregs of aviation: the off-the-street fighter / bomber / cargo military pilots, corporate captains, and non-flow LCAs from regionals. Truly a "b" scale at all those places soon, if you're correct. They might as well fold their operations now.

https://i.imgflip.com/2z24hp.jpg

ElCaribe 01-05-2021 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by watch (Post 3177982)
Wow. That's bad news for FedEx and Delta, then. American will have all the best pilots, and everyone else will have the dregs of aviation: the off-the-street fighter / bomber / cargo military pilots, corporate captains, and non-flow LCAs from regionals. Truly a "b" scale at all those places soon, if you're correct. They might as well fold their operations now.

Envoy* will have all the best pilots. They’re not at American yet.

FXLAX 01-05-2021 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by Wingedbeast (Post 3178271)
If the same people are running the union what difference does it make?


If the structure of how the union is organized is different, there may be different mechanisms to “persuade” leaders into action. Also, there probably be a shuffle anyway with new elections.


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