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PilotGR 08-06-2021 08:20 AM

I can't believe this is even a debate in 2021. Doesn't APA pay for ALPA resources..also, just look at the contracts. Who is winning? We would be a stronger union together. Some of you guys are smoking crack from the 60s.

Throwitaway 08-06-2021 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by PilotGR (Post 3274536)
Some of you guys are smoking crack from the 60s.

That's the good stuff 🤪

El Peso 08-06-2021 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by PilotGR (Post 3274536)
I can't believe this is even a debate in 2021. Doesn't APA pay for ALPA resources..also, just look at the contracts. Who is winning? We would be a stronger union together. Some of you guys are smoking crack from the 60s.

I would be more concerned about United unilaterally making personal medical decisions for their employees, and how ALPA will respond to that rather than worrying about what APA is doing.

Saabs 08-06-2021 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3274591)
I would be more concerned about United unilaterally making personal medical decisions for their employees, and how ALPA will respond to that rather than worrying about what APA is doing.

I don’t believe there is anything prohibiting United to mandate them. Nobody has a right to a job at United and nobody is required to stay employed by them if they oppose the mandate.

That’s my viewpoint if I was a business owner / CEO or whatever.

El Peso 08-06-2021 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 3274629)
I don’t believe there is anything prohibiting United to mandate them. Nobody has a right to a job at United and nobody is required to stay employed by them if they oppose the mandate.

That’s my viewpoint if I was a business owner / CEO or whatever.

Its rare that one airline institutes something and others don’t follow. I’m guessing we’ll know very soon if Parker is going to move forward with the same.

Saabs 08-06-2021 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3274639)
Its rare that one airline institutes something and others don’t follow. I’m guessing we’ll know very soon if Parker is going to move forward with the same.

Will be interesting to see for sure. The United ALPA email said their pilots were 90% vaccinated, APA says we are 60%.

AllYourBaseAreB 08-06-2021 07:25 PM

Everything is a conspiracy when you’ve been through this many mergers in one pilot group.

sanicom3205 08-07-2021 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3274639)
Its rare that one airline institutes something and others don’t follow. I’m guessing we’ll know very soon if Parker is going to move forward with the same.

The majority of countries are going to require you to be vaccinated prior to entry as a foreign national. Do these guys truly believe that American Airlines, an international carrier, is going to create a separate special bid status for pilots who refuse the vaccine to keep them from crossing boarders? It’s laughable to imagine it for narrowbody pilots, and an absolute riot when applying that logic to widebody statuses.

I know it’s been decades since most of these guys have been to college - and they probably aren’t involved with the lives of their estranged children from their first marriage - but colleges require inoculations and records prior to admission. That includes MMR, HPV, Meningitis, influenza, Hep B….. soon covid. Get a grip on reality guys.

BOGSAT 08-07-2021 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3275238)
The majority of countries are going to require you to be vaccinated prior to entry as a foreign national. Do these guys truly believe that American Airlines, an international carrier, is going to create a separate special bid status for pilots who refuse the vaccine to keep them from crossing boarders? It’s laughable to imagine it for narrowbody pilots, and an absolute riot when applying that logic to widebody statuses.

I know it’s been decades since most of these guys have been to college - and they probably aren’t involved with the lives of their estranged children from their first marriage - but colleges require inoculations and records prior to admission. That includes MMR, HPV, Meningitis, influenza, Hep B….. soon covid. Get a grip on reality guys.

bingo. ^^^^^^^^^

Al Czervik 08-07-2021 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3275238)
The majority of countries are going to require you to be vaccinated prior to entry as a foreign national. Do these guys truly believe that American Airlines, an international carrier, is going to create a separate special bid status for pilots who refuse the vaccine to keep them from crossing boarders? It’s laughable to imagine it for narrowbody pilots, and an absolute riot when applying that logic to widebody statuses.

I know it’s been decades since most of these guys have been to college - and they probably aren’t involved with the lives of their estranged children from their first marriage - but colleges require inoculations and records prior to admission. That includes MMR, HPV, Meningitis, influenza, Hep B….. soon covid. Get a grip on reality guys.

The 737 is gonna the the hot thing for the 787 guys. ELP is the new Athens.


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