I think he means you just quarantine for the duration of your stay in country, this is currently done is SYD and BGI, probably other places but those I know of…you stay in your room till it’s van time…BGI you can go out if vax-ed, not sure about SYD…

“Quarantine refers to the practice of separating individuals who have had close contact with someone with COVID-19 to determine whether they develop symptoms or test positive for the disease. ….Quarantine for COVID-19 should last for 14 days after the exposure has ended.”

I comprehend your message just fine, it’s not my fault you made a different argument than you intended.

Also, your anger is misdirected. I’m not making the rules, I’m just telling you the reality of the situation.

Absolutely. There's definitely a sense that a lot of union positions at AA are minor legaue resume boosters for management. The end result is working for a flag carrier with a regional quality of life.

I’ve flown with 3 current or former chief pilots at AAL. All 3 were heavily involved with APA in the past. It’s a revolving door and you don’t want to make too many waves while working for APA or you might lose that future cushy mgt job. After 20+ years of bringing up the rear it’s time to switch to ALPA.

Agreed. At least we can then directly pattern bargain along with UAL and DL besides taking advantage of all that ALPA has to offer in additional benefits to their pilots. We have been working on this ILC since 1963 - I’m not sure it’s ever going to happen.

Could fences be a solution? Let's say 5 years from APA to management for certain APA positions.

Same stuff happens with (D)ALPA. The company recently created a new management position called Director-Pilot Contract Administration and Support, and filled it with a long time ALPA insider. 20+ years in ALPA, was a negotiator and knows our contract (good and bad) better than most. The naive side of me wants to say this could be good, but the realistic side says it likely won't be in our favor lol. Not saying it's not worth a switch to ALPA, just that it's the same crap, different pile in this respect. Best of luck gents!

I hear you. Same crap maybe but better results. Possibly the adult supervision from ALPA national keeps each airline’s ALPA in line. Something is structurally wrong with APA and they haven’t fixed it during the last 30+ years. The results speak for themselves. ALPA produces better contracts than APA. I’m amazed by the guys who would cost themselves hundreds of thousands or possibly millions in earnings over a career because they “hate ALPA.”

Well said. Plus they have “the voice” in DC, the resources, and better benefits for their pilots overall.