It's Time... For ALPA.
08-07-2021 | 06:46 AM
#221
Eating A Gruben
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I know it’s been decades since most of these guys have been to college - and they probably aren’t involved with the lives of their estranged children from their first marriage - but colleges require inoculations and records prior to admission. That includes MMR, HPV, Meningitis, influenza, Hep B….. soon covid. Get a grip on reality guys.
08-07-2021 | 07:09 AM
#222
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The majority of countries are going to require you to be vaccinated prior to entry as a foreign national. Do these guys truly believe that American Airlines, an international carrier, is going to create a separate special bid status for pilots who refuse the vaccine to keep them from crossing boarders? It’s laughable to imagine it for narrowbody pilots, and an absolute riot when applying that logic to widebody statuses.
I know it’s been decades since most of these guys have been to college - and they probably aren’t involved with the lives of their estranged children from their first marriage - but colleges require inoculations and records prior to admission. That includes MMR, HPV, Meningitis, influenza, Hep B….. soon covid. Get a grip on reality guys.
I know it’s been decades since most of these guys have been to college - and they probably aren’t involved with the lives of their estranged children from their first marriage - but colleges require inoculations and records prior to admission. That includes MMR, HPV, Meningitis, influenza, Hep B….. soon covid. Get a grip on reality guys.
08-07-2021 | 08:43 AM
#223
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The majority of countries are going to require you to be vaccinated prior to entry as a foreign national. Do these guys truly believe that American Airlines, an international carrier, is going to create a separate special bid status for pilots who refuse the vaccine to keep them from crossing boarders? It’s laughable to imagine it for narrowbody pilots, and an absolute riot when applying that logic to widebody statuses.
I know it’s been decades since most of these guys have been to college - and they probably aren’t involved with the lives of their estranged children from their first marriage - but colleges require inoculations and records prior to admission. That includes MMR, HPV, Meningitis, influenza, Hep B….. soon covid. Get a grip on reality guys.
I know it’s been decades since most of these guys have been to college - and they probably aren’t involved with the lives of their estranged children from their first marriage - but colleges require inoculations and records prior to admission. That includes MMR, HPV, Meningitis, influenza, Hep B….. soon covid. Get a grip on reality guys.
08-07-2021 | 07:59 PM
#225
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From: A320 CA
The majority of countries are going to require you to be vaccinated prior to entry as a foreign national. Do these guys truly believe that American Airlines, an international carrier, is going to create a separate special bid status for pilots who refuse the vaccine to keep them from crossing boarders? It’s laughable to imagine it for narrowbody pilots, and an absolute riot when applying that logic to widebody statuses.
I know it’s been decades since most of these guys have been to college - and they probably aren’t involved with the lives of their estranged children from their first marriage - but colleges require inoculations and records prior to admission. That includes MMR, HPV, Meningitis, influenza, Hep B….. soon covid. Get a grip on reality guys.
I know it’s been decades since most of these guys have been to college - and they probably aren’t involved with the lives of their estranged children from their first marriage - but colleges require inoculations and records prior to admission. That includes MMR, HPV, Meningitis, influenza, Hep B….. soon covid. Get a grip on reality guys.
08-07-2021 | 08:20 PM
#226
Weekend workaholic
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From: A320 CA
Bingo. I hope the members sue the heck out of ALPA and UAL. A forced medical procedure is absolutely unacceptable.
08-08-2021 | 12:13 AM
#227
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The majority of countries are going to require you to be vaccinated prior to entry as a foreign national. Do these guys truly believe that American Airlines, an international carrier, is going to create a separate special bid status for pilots who refuse the vaccine to keep them from crossing boarders? It’s laughable to imagine it for narrowbody pilots, and an absolute riot when applying that logic to widebody statuses.
I know it’s been decades since most of these guys have been to college - and they probably aren’t involved with the lives of their estranged children from their first marriage - but colleges require inoculations and records prior to admission. That includes MMR, HPV, Meningitis, influenza, Hep B….. soon covid. Get a grip on reality guys.
I know it’s been decades since most of these guys have been to college - and they probably aren’t involved with the lives of their estranged children from their first marriage - but colleges require inoculations and records prior to admission. That includes MMR, HPV, Meningitis, influenza, Hep B….. soon covid. Get a grip on reality guys.
08-08-2021 | 04:18 AM
#228
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As for legality, it seems that there is pretty solid precedent for an employer to require vaccinations. Plus you can bet that United wouldn't announce something like this if their legal team weren't pretty confident it'd hold up in court.
Now I'm sure there'll be waivers and exceptions, but since I imagine most other countries will require incoming foreigners to be vaccinated that'll be more complicated.
I find it hard to imagine an airline giving non vaccinated crew members a special domestic bid option, but who knows.
08-08-2021 | 04:30 AM
#229
Eating A Gruben
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You guys can tell yourselves whatever you want, it’s not going to change reality.
Good luck in court
https://apnews.com/article/health-co...fa371675f8c617
Supreme Court precedent in Jacobson V. Massachusetts. Roll up those sleeves boys
Good luck in court
https://apnews.com/article/health-co...fa371675f8c617
Supreme Court precedent in Jacobson V. Massachusetts. Roll up those sleeves boys
08-08-2021 | 04:37 AM
#230
"Yinzer an'at"
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From: Sittin at the puter
Sanicom is correct. Additionally, contractual force majeure specifically considers, epidemics, so a contractual challenge is likely to fail.
Force majeure is a common clause in contracts which essentially frees both parties from liability or obligation when an extraordinary event or circumstance beyond the control of the parties, such as a war, strike, riot, crime, epidemic or sudden legal changes prevents one or both parties from fulfilling their obligations under the contract.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_majeure
https://www.akerman.com/en/perspecti...contracts.html
Force majeure is a common clause in contracts which essentially frees both parties from liability or obligation when an extraordinary event or circumstance beyond the control of the parties, such as a war, strike, riot, crime, epidemic or sudden legal changes prevents one or both parties from fulfilling their obligations under the contract.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_majeure
https://www.akerman.com/en/perspecti...contracts.html
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