It's Time... For ALPA.
12-08-2020 | 07:36 AM
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Can’t wait to see how “generous” APA pilots.
I recently learned that Philly’s APA Chair started a “go fund me” page, where Philly pilots can contribute money which will then be used to purchase holiday gift cards for Philly’s furloughed pilots.
Personally, I think this little experiment is going to be extremely telling in regard to the attitude and mindset of APA’s pilot group as it relates to empathy, respect, and compassion for their brethren pilots. “Unity” is only a thing when it benefits those who are planning to retire within a couple of years.
Nevertheless, I hope those furloughed Philly pilots enjoy that Bass Pro Shops gift card, ........ worth $1.67.
Personally, I think this little experiment is going to be extremely telling in regard to the attitude and mindset of APA’s pilot group as it relates to empathy, respect, and compassion for their brethren pilots. “Unity” is only a thing when it benefits those who are planning to retire within a couple of years.
Nevertheless, I hope those furloughed Philly pilots enjoy that Bass Pro Shops gift card, ........ worth $1.67.
12-08-2020 | 07:55 AM
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I recently learned that Philly’s APA Chair started a “go fund me” page, where Philly pilots can contribute money which will then be used to purchase holiday gift cards for Philly’s furloughed pilots.
Personally, I think this little experiment is going to be extremely telling in regard to the attitude and mindset of APA’s pilot group as it relates to empathy, respect, and compassion for their brethren pilots. “Unity” is only a thing when it benefits those who are planning to retire within a couple of years.
Nevertheless, I hope those furloughed Philly pilots enjoy that Bass Pro Shops gift card, ........ worth $1.67.
Personally, I think this little experiment is going to be extremely telling in regard to the attitude and mindset of APA’s pilot group as it relates to empathy, respect, and compassion for their brethren pilots. “Unity” is only a thing when it benefits those who are planning to retire within a couple of years.
Nevertheless, I hope those furloughed Philly pilots enjoy that Bass Pro Shops gift card, ........ worth $1.67.
Also I noticed some furloughed pilots donating... That speaks loudly.
12-08-2020 | 11:12 AM
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From: Picking up the Forta Magnus clearance from Melnix.
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I don’t think too highly of ALPA, but some of my co workers and friends do. It seems the valuation of any union is hit or miss depending on who you ask. I have older AA/UsAir friends who would never want to go back to ALPA, they say APA is/was better. Has APA changed in 2020?
I would love to see AA join ALPA. I’m stuck at Envoy. But it seems to make sense to me that as a WO regional, we should be under the same Union as the mother company.
I would love to see AA join ALPA. I’m stuck at Envoy. But it seems to make sense to me that as a WO regional, we should be under the same Union as the mother company.
FINALLY!!!! Someone who gets it. Believe me brother, we tried it back in the day---APA would have none of it, and ALPA just wanted big American. They really could have cared less about Eagle or any other regional. Of course, AMR loved it that way because they could still play their standard "shell game", you know, all the Eagle carriers against each other, and Eagle and American against each other. I 100% agree with you. EVERY PILOT that flies ANY AIRPLANE that benefits ANY MAJOR AIRLINE should ALL be on the same seniority list, with representation from the SAME UNION. By the fact that you are flying at Envoy, you are a de-facto American Airlines pilot. I would like to live long enough to see that happen. No more shell game/whipsawing, no more second class status for pilots who fly smaller aircraft.
In reality, do I think it will happen?
No
12-08-2020 | 11:45 AM
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FINALLY!!!! Someone who gets it. Believe me brother, we tried it back in the day---APA would have none of it, and ALPA just wanted big American. They really could have cared less about Eagle or any other regional. Of course, AMR loved it that way because they could still play their standard "shell game", you know, all the Eagle carriers against each other, and Eagle and American against each other. I 100% agree with you. EVERY PILOT that flies ANY AIRPLANE that benefits ANY MAJOR AIRLINE should ALL be on the same seniority list, with representation from the SAME UNION. By the fact that you are flying at Envoy, you are a de-facto American Airlines pilot. I would like to live long enough to see that happen. No more shell game/whipsawing, no more second class status for pilots who fly smaller aircraft.
In reality, do I think it will happen?
No
In reality, do I think it will happen?
No
You think guys at Delta and FedEx making $400K+ want to take a pay cut so regional pilots can make decent money? No. And that's what it would take.
Pilots really are their own worst enemy.
12-08-2020 | 07:45 PM
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From: Picking up the Forta Magnus clearance from Melnix.
You got that right brother!!
12-09-2020 | 03:12 PM
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That’s a false choice. No one has to take a pay cut to have brand scope. You just have to have or make leverage. Easier said than done, sure. But not beyond the laws of physics.
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