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Old 07-22-2022 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
You need to do a little more research.
Since you claim to know so much, why don’t you tell us where he’s wrong? As far as I have read, he’s correct.

Read recently that AA has 76bn in total debt. Shareholder equity is negative!

I have a lot of complaints about DAL, but I’m glad we don’t run our house finances like that!
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Old 07-22-2022 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mainline Mulier
Since you claim to know so much, why don’t you tell us where he’s wrong? As far as I have read, he’s correct.

Read recently that AA has 76bn in total debt. Shareholder equity is negative!

I have a lot of complaints about DAL, but I’m glad we don’t run our house finances like that!

Literally the post above yours.
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Old 07-22-2022 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Literally the post above yours.

I don’t see anything that refutes what he says. 15bn in liquidity was raised going into covid. They are paying that back, that’s not touching the massive debt load AA had before covid. That’s exactly what he wrote.
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Old 07-22-2022 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
AA will be sub DL debt by the end of 2025:


American produced revenues of $13.4 billion in the second quarter, a 12.2% increase versus 2019 and a record for any quarter in company history. This record revenue was achieved while flying 8.5% less capacity than the same period in 2019….
Sub DL debt now? DL Debt in 2025?

FYI, DL did $13.8B 2Q22 (10% increase over 2019) on only 82% capacity, so 18% down compared to AA’s 8%.
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Old 07-22-2022 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mainline Mulier
Since you claim to know so much, why don’t you tell us where he’s wrong? As far as I have read, he’s correct.

Read recently that AA has 76bn in total debt. Shareholder equity is negative!

I have a lot of complaints about DAL, but I’m glad we don’t run our house finances like that!
76bn in total liabilities, that's not long term debt. As of today, DL has 71bn in total liabilities.
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Old 07-22-2022 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
AA will be sub DL debt by the end of 2025:


American produced revenues of $13.4 billion in the second quarter, a 12.2% increase versus 2019 and a record for any quarter in company history. This record revenue was achieved while flying 8.5% less capacity than the same period in 2019, and there remains significant revenue potential going forward to the extent business and international travel improve further.
Domestic leisure travel remains very strong and surpassed 2019 levels in the second quarter and American also saw improvements in corporate and government revenue in the quarter. Demand for international travel also improved steadily during the second quarter and the company expects this to continue following the lifting of the COVID-19 testing requirement for inbound travel to the U.S.

Liquidity and balance sheet

American ended the second quarter with $15.6 billion of total available liquidity. Total debt reduction continues to be a top priority and the company remains on track to reduce overall debt levels by $15 billion by the end of 2025.
In the second quarter, the company made $1.0 billion in scheduled debt and finance lease payments, including paying off the remaining $433 million outstanding balance of its $750 million unsecured senior notes that matured in June. To date, American has reduced its overall debt by $5.2 billion from peak levels in the second quarter of 2021.
Good old crystal ball you have there.
"will be", wanna bet? Analysts disagree with you.
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Old 07-22-2022 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Sub DL debt now? DL Debt in 2025?

FYI, DL did $13.8B 2Q22 (10% increase over 2019) on only 82% capacity, so 18% down compared to AA’s 8%.

Current.

Current debt:
AA 38b
UAL 33b
DL 25b

It will be interesting to see UAL/DL debt when fleet replacements are complete. AA dug itself into a debt hole right before the pandemic (which may or may not turn out to be a good move).
AA’s main focus is deleveraging. They need DL efficiencies. No one at AA is comfortable making less money that DL with a larger operation. AA does a lot of things wrong but I think we may be in a good position moving forward.
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Old 07-22-2022 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
You seem above quoting those authors.
As I said, another voice heard from. If you believe you can refute their arguments, perhaps you should do so rather than going ad hominem on me and them.

Your response sort of smacks of shooting the messenger which - generally speaking - is not the way to keep yourself informed.
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Old 07-22-2022 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Current.

Current debt:
AA 38b
UAL 33b
DL 25b

It will be interesting to see UAL/DL debt when fleet replacements are complete. AA dug itself into a debt hole right before the pandemic (which may or may not turn out to be a good move).
AA’s main focus is deleveraging. They need DL efficiencies. No one at AA is comfortable making less money that DL with a larger operation. AA does a lot of things wrong but I think we may be in a good position moving forward.
You haven't actually read any of the SEC filings or transcripts, have you?

Btw, Isom is saying their main focus is the regionals going forward.

"And so our fleet is -- our regional aircraft is roughly 600 aircraft. Love to get those back up.And over time, there will be changes in terms of mix to that fleet, but it will be based on how effective it supports our hubs and the rest of the mainline operation, too. So first goal and one that I think will take the next couple of years for sure is to get to all 600 back up and flying."

If you read the whole transcript, there are multiple comments on how the regional feed is their priority right now.

"And a major part of that is the regional jet. In this last quarter, we flew 20% -- we had 20% more O&Ds than what our next largest network competitor did. And in those markets, we are seeing yields that are 25% greater than what happened to the rest of the system. Indeed, that's what's really driving the yield growth that's there."

" That said, there is a uniqueness about American Airlines network that allows us to use on our regional network and our regional pilots in a fashion that produces outsized yield. That's what will differentiate us."

"Yes. I'll just add to it very simply, Duane, in an industry that has struggled for a long time to be able to pass its cost into revenue, at least for us, what we've seen time and time again with the regionals is anytime there has been a cost increase, that is the one part of the business where we can most consistently pass it through to revenues. And we do it because of what it does. It creates a unique product for customers that increasingly nobody else but American Airlines can go and do.

And when you look through our system, right, there's many of those markets that you simply couldn't upgauge. And even if you did upgauge it, flying to large cities, Birmingham, Alabama, Wilmington, North Carolina, once a day of a 737 doesn't really create a lot of utility for some of those really big metro areas in the U.S. So for us, this is actually a place where by doing it, and frankly, by doing it through our wholly owned regional jets, which themselves are very massive airlines, it creates a lot of unique value for our customers, which turns into revenue for us."

Looking forward to your next ad hominem, because that's all you can do.

Maybe they will staple AA to the WO's, that's what your management wants.
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Old 07-22-2022 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Current.

Current debt:
AA 38b
UAL 33b
DL 25b

It will be interesting to see UAL/DL debt when fleet replacements are complete. AA dug itself into a debt hole right before the pandemic (which may or may not turn out to be a good move).
AA’s main focus is deleveraging. They need DL efficiencies. No one at AA is comfortable making less money that DL with a larger operation. AA does a lot of things wrong but I think we may be in a good position moving forward.
Debt doesn’t mean anything without including assets. Assets - debt = equity and every legacy besides AAL is positive equity.

American is -8.4b in equity and getting larger every quarter. Which means less assets more debt EVERY QUARTER.
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