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Old 03-08-2022, 08:41 AM
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How about high oil prices? Are you going bankrupt now? 70% of APC has been waiting patiently.
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Old 03-08-2022, 08:42 AM
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How about high oil prices? Are you going bankrupt now? 70% of APC has been waiting patiently.


Much more likely but still unforeseeable.
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Old 03-08-2022, 09:07 AM
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How about high oil prices? Are you going bankrupt now? 70% of APC has been waiting patiently.
It certainly increases the chances, I could see AAL using chapter 11 to restructure the debt and become even more of a domestic/LA centric airline (park the 777s) and maybe even get rid of a hub or two. I don’t think they’d come after pilot wages in the process due to the shortage.
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Old 03-08-2022, 03:30 PM
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It certainly increases the chances, I could see AAL using chapter 11 to restructure the debt and become even more of a domestic/LA centric airline (park the 777s) and maybe even get rid of a hub or two. I don’t think they’d come after pilot wages in the process due to the shortage.
wont be a shortage if everyone stops hiring.
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Old 03-08-2022, 08:43 PM
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Unfortunately due to being at the edge of stagflation (not hyperinflation just yet) too big to fail free printing will no longer be an option. Once we hit the March 15th FOMC meeting all loans will also not going to be 0%APR. The only way to stay alive is profitability.
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Old 03-09-2022, 03:51 AM
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How about high oil prices? Are you going bankrupt now? 70% of APC has been waiting patiently.
Historically speaking, EVERY 50% rise in crude has led to a recession since the 1970s.

Could lead to some interesting times
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Old 03-09-2022, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Floyd94 View Post
Historically speaking, EVERY 50% rise in crude has led to a recession since the 1970s.

Could lead to some interesting times
we just need to print a sh&t load more dollars, mail checks to everyone, and keep inflating the everything bubble. lol
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Old 03-09-2022, 09:47 AM
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we just need to print a sh&t load more dollars, mail checks to everyone, and keep inflating the everything bubble. lol

AOC, is that you?


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Old 03-09-2022, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Floyd94 View Post
Historically speaking, EVERY 50% rise in crude has led to a recession since the 1970s.

Could lead to some interesting times
That CNBC factoid is incorrect. Oil prices doubled in 2011 and 2018 without triggering a recession.
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Old 03-09-2022, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Floyd94 View Post
Historically speaking, EVERY 50% rise in crude has led to a recession since the 1970s.

Could lead to some interesting times
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That CNBC factoid is incorrect. Oil prices doubled in 2011 and 2018 without triggering a recession.

for purposes of this thread, that may be a distinction without a meaningful difference.



Recession or not, high fuel costs are a stressor…
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