N4TL is an option when you select HISEQ to see what trips TTOT will let you trade your current trips with...Trade-able Legal...the other option is N4T which will show you all the trips you could trade your current trip with but does not filter for legality

 

That's not uncommon at all...Almost every month in most categories 1day trips will turn Green at some point...The problem the last few months is all the open time out there is designated as Red while most peoples current trips are Redder, thus not allowing any trades with open time...and we are not talking trading a 5day to a 2day straight up here either, it won't even let you trade a 3day for another 3day on a different set of days...its pretty bad...I have had some success, thanks LS, but other than that crickets.

 

Vasu is a revenue guy, it stands to reason more pilots and planes always generate more revenue than fewer pilot and planes.

Vasu’s department isn’t obligated to concern themselves with overhead.

Interchanging “the company” with revenue mgmt department oversimplifies the difference between revenue and profit.

Saying they shouldn’t have furloughed is either just a desire, Monday morning quarter back, or saying they should have known exactly when this thing would be over.

Right now its good info, they have booked more work than what the pilot group can handle, maybe even with the furloughs back.

 

I did provide an explanation, down to the most simple form. My comment obviously rubbed you the wrong way, so you are obviously cognizant that what I said holds water.

 

Even if you give the company a pass just because his title is chief revenue officer, why did we generate less revenue despite flying more than DAL and UAL prior to the pandemic? I bet the same is true for after the pandemic. What’s the excuse there?

Do you think that Vasu and his team operate in a vacuum? More pilots and more planes means more revenue, so you think they will always argue to grow the company even when it doesn’t make sense to do so? Extremely myopic viewpoints are acceptable just because of what someone’s job title is?

Why did DAL and UAL not furlough, while we did? Almost seems like they were smart enough to see the potential in a recovery to me. You can defend it all until the cows come home, doesn’t change the fact that we took a different course than everyone else and are paying the price for it. Enraging passengers is not good for business, and neither is making the news for cancelling flights due to staffing after begging for government assistance to keep staff on property. How is that something anyone can argue about?

 

Thats pretty much every month in my bid status. Anyone want some sweet all night turns to Latin America? I can hook you up.

 

Along those lines, after my flight late last night (about 10:30 PM), I was walking through the terminal at LAX and saw a massive line of passengers waiting at the service center for two agents to rebook them. Probably 150 people in that line. The people near the back of that line were going to be there for probably well over an hour.

 

2019 revenue
Delta was 47B
AA was 45B
United was 43B

My take was the Max was down, the mechanics were doing their work slow down, and they were retiring the MD-80s, and Delta has JV revenue that is larger than AA’s.

Delta did furlough, I believe over 1,000 received no award on a displacement notice; their union negotiated 35 hours at 717 FO pay. The cares act bumped them up to full time pay. They were not qualified on any Delta equipment.

Vasu doesn’t operate in a vacuum, CASM includes the relevant cost for him to use. His department doesn’t produce a ROI for furloughs for the various labor groups. If anything the APA is responsible for ensuring that furloughs are costly tilting any ROI spreadsheet in their favor.

IF United didn’t furlough its because their contract, ratio of domestic/international titled the ROI of a furlough in the pilots favor. Has little bearing on Kirby's foresight vs Parker on when this would end.

AA parked 4 fleet types, and claims they knocked 1B in overhead off of 2019 volume.

I don’t have any numbers yet but I believe the June cancels are due to AA scheduling more block hours than Delta or United.

I highly doubt Delta or United could park 4 fleets and only suffer 3% capacity for 30-60 days.

I think both company’s are internally upset they didn’t schedule more blocks hours for June, and have already started “missing out”.

 

Its clear that the path this company is on is satisfactory for you, and that’s okay. We’ll leave it as a simple disagreement on that.

But delta did not furlough. 35 hours of pay while not working is most certainly not a furlough.

 

Go back and sit at the kid’s table.