Agent196

Yeah, that is individuale opinion based on those people. But if we are being honest, pay really isn't different anymore, not including retirement. They are actually making alot more if you are taking into account they are flying 76 people for every hour you are flying 176 or so. That being said I do agree, you are treated more professional at AA in context of conversation among peers. All things considered, if you flew with me, I would not be one of those that told you it is night and day better at AA. I would have told you the one thing that is better is the pay. Now, I would not even tell you that. All things considered, choosing to be at a major airline over a regional regardless of short term work rule inequalities or pay, the major is the better choice for career potential. So I'm sure the point of the guys you fly with, is that being at AA is the better choice regardless of current down falls. That I do agree with.

thrust

huh? I’ve dropped 95%+ of my schedule in 2022. Dropped every trip in January, February, March, April, and June. Flew a few straight pay turns and 1-1s in May.

You can absolutely drop to zero at AA. Obviously depends on the airframe, seat, domicile, and relative seniority.

biigD

Yeah - I fly 100 days per year. Not on reserve, just flying a line. I drop and trade around to about 10-12 days per month. Flew only 4 in December. Turns and 2 days mostly. Live in base of course.

OpieTaylor

That is good news, I am new and have heard others say it is difficult.

Is the contract language there to force it, or it’s coincidental or luck to get drops? I was talking in terms of what the contract forces upon the company to the betterment of the workers.

The contract language can be written inferior and you still have good opportunity you like.

AB321Driver

Perhaps if we stop for a few days flying PM PR we could have a contract quickly. Too many OT *****s here.

OpieTaylor

Yea, this seems like what’s going on, everyone is happy with current contract and just look to APA to be some white knight.

If they were unhappy they would be doing the minimum because they are unhappy, it’s basic human nature, not some sort of work action.

The seniority movement is keeping everyone happy which inhibits contract progress.

FlyyGuyy

It's beginning to look like it was better to stay at the regional. At least I couldn't just be extended into days off, reassigned whenever etc. I'm headed into an involuntary day 5 tomorrow. Ironically, with the cancels it gets me home sooner than it would be now with my (previous) dh home cancelling tonight. 2nd reassignment this trip. Last trip 5 ra and one ro.

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AV8R72

I’m at Envoy and seniority is our goal. We would sell everything for seniority. This will stop those going to Spirit and Frontier…maybe Jet Blue, but I think that’s it.

Im about 3 years on property and wouldn’t hesitate to leave if offered a job at AA or any legacy, brown/purple or SWA.

OpieTaylor

The unions are needed to have 1 list and separate air carrier certificates like Shuttle America and Republic.

AB321Driver

PM PR MU *****s are moving the metal. Until then NO Contract.