at least we didn’t copy and paste the tumi ta

Pretty hilarious to see the usual APA shills out en force acting like this is some massive windfall. You guys didn’t even negotiate this just like you barely negotiated your actual TA. You copy/pasted half of the Delta contract and just did the same for the UAL contract. All while very carefully managing not to do a single thing to risk Delta or United snapping up on their pay.

Your management just saw what 2 ALPA carriers got and they know they have to meet it to remain competitive. And once again APA look like clowns. Great job guys, keep up the good work :rolleyes:

Well, well, well, looks like you guys are embracing desperation with open arms – not just openly siding with management, but also now cooking up facts.

Robert Isom, in his direct negotiations with the pilots, gave the package an evaluation of 9 billion. Not 10.


Yes, I am very positively going to cancel your vote.

Sick burn…

Mocking United while clutching a TA that's the pinnacle of inferiority is becoming an art form in the realm of ridicule.

No.

They matched pay, retro, and copied the LTD bridge provision. We are still severely lagging United and Delta in nearly all sections, as we all foresaw.

After reading the musings of the resident cowards here and on The Line, it appears that we've earned and deserve our rightful place at the bottom of the industry.

This pilot group is pathetic.

You sure are pathetic with that attitude and calling a 15,000 pilot group pathetic, I guess you know every pilot.

Looking at your posts you’ve been saying for a long time this place sucks and that is so toxic blah. Lag. Do you know what makes a place toxic? Toxic people like you.

NC chair has been recalled. BOD isn’t stepping down and has a big list to counter. It’s not over yet.

My dear critic. Yes, calling a pilot group pathetic naturally implies that I have a deep, telepathic knowledge of every pilot in existence, and includes all 15.000 of them. Pure genius deduction.


It's truly heartwarming to know that someone is keeping a close eye on my every word. However, your analysis seems to be lacking: criticism doesn't make a place toxic; it's the inherent toxicity that attracts the criticism in the first place. The simple laws of cause and effect. You are blaming the iceberg for sinking the Titanic.

Furthermore, I never said this place sucked. I'm defending this place against those who betray our interests and sabotage the entire industry.

Keep spreading that sunshine, with perhaps a little less selective outrage.

You know who has a 3% amenable date raise and a snap up? UNITED

FWIW, there’s some smoke on both AA mgmt and APA sides that it was Ed Bastian who reached out to Isom and proposed the pay rate match so as not to trigger the delta snap up, as a way of punking DALPA… petty.

And of course, APA rolled over. Not discounting your clown show assertion, because that’s very true.