Except they are fixing their "awful" (FSB). We aren’t fixing ours (trip trading, or lack thereof).

It was the point from the outset, but you feign to not understand when caught.


Such grandiosity, calling me a 🐈 while hiding behind the veil of an anonymous message board. Truly pathetic.

The trip trading system is meant to get addressed by creating less 4+5 day trips. Also the latest email from APA mentions TTS directly.

And you’re real brave, calling me a management monkey, tough guy. Let’s remember who started the name calling behind the veil of a message board.

Oh my god, guys this back and forth name calling and slinging of insults needs to stop. UA/DL guys and gals, can you not just be happy for a moment with what you’ve accomplished in negotiating instead of throwing out insults at the AA pilot group for not triggering a snap up? It reeks of entitlement and is not kind, especially when there’s not much the majority of our group can do about it. Right now we have APA. Not much we can do to change that at the moment. We have card drives going for ALPA but it’s going to take a lot of time and effort to move that needle. In my opinion, we have higher priorities than triggering a snap up for everyone else, because no one at DL or UA has to deal with our lagging QOL work rules, we do. I know we’d all love to say we snapped up pay for the industry but we’re already 3rd place in legacy contracts. We just replaced our NC chair, so let’s just wait and see what happens. I’m hoping to see major improvements in all facets of the TA, but even if we can’t accomplish that, does it really make you feel better to **** on us when we’re already down? I mean, come on.

At least the Tumi TA was overwhelmingly voted down. I would not be the least bit surprised if this gets voted in.

Are you equating the Tumi TA to what we have on the table at the moment? Sounds like you’re saying this 9 billion plus dollar deal and the Tumi are similar, and therefore should get a similar reception when voting. You think the two are in the same hemisphere?

from the sounds of it there will be no vote at all

Ta canceled

Now that is disgusting. Withhold a TA that will surely overwhelmingly pass so the 10% crybabies can feel tough. If Isom's deal was so bad let it get voted down.

APA to USAPA-"Hold my beer."

or….. you know…. Actually keep negotiating since he was the one that reopened the deal and added sweeteners… not us