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Originally Posted by thrust
(Post 3670519)
FWIW, there’s some smoke on both AA mgmt and APA sides that it was Ed Bastian who reached out to Isom and proposed the pay rate match so as not to trigger the delta snap up, as a way of punking DALPA… petty.
And of course, APA rolled over. Not discounting your clown show assertion, because that’s very true. |
Originally Posted by diva
(Post 3670334)
Word is out AA Management just Improved the previously
offered $8.3 Billion TA (Tentative Agreement) closer to a $10 Billion dollar deal for its pilots. Improvements to include Industry Leading Retro-Pay, Snap-up Provisions, Accelerated Future Wage Increases to name a few… :D This is Great News for AA pilots ! More details to follow… |
Originally Posted by diva
(Post 3670357)
Unfortunately, even if you place a plate full of Gold in front of some people, they still find a way to complain about it…
Is it perfect ? No (I never said so)… Is it a great improvement to the previously offered TA ? Yes… Now a $10 Billion dollar Deal ! For your own sake brother, have some positivity in your life. Don’t sweat the small stuff fighting over what color Floor-Mats you’re getting, look at the overall Big-Picture. Wish you the best… Cheers |
Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
(Post 3670416)
Pretty hilarious to see the usual APA shills out en force acting like this is some massive windfall. You guys didn’t even negotiate this just like you barely negotiated your actual TA. You copy/pasted half of the Delta contract and just did the same for the UAL contract. All while very carefully managing not to do a single thing to risk Delta or United snapping up on their pay.
Your management just saw what 2 ALPA carriers got and they know they have to meet it to remain competitive. And once again APA look like clowns. Great job guys, keep up the good work :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
(Post 3670416)
Pretty hilarious to see the usual APA shills out en force acting like this is some massive windfall. You guys didn’t even negotiate this just like you barely negotiated your actual TA. You copy/pasted half of the Delta contract and just did the same for the UAL contract. All while very carefully managing not to do a single thing to risk Delta or United snapping up on their pay.
Your management just saw what 2 ALPA carriers got and they know they have to meet it to remain competitive. And once again APA look like clowns. Great job guys, keep up the good work :rolleyes: You know those rj pilots that would **** all over their competitors over a $1/hr difference in pay or xyz contract language or how such and such company was "bringing the industry down"? Yeah, they |
Originally Posted by tunes
(Post 3670528)
so he reached out to isom and not Kirby? That story is unlikely but a convenient excuse
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Originally Posted by Name User
(Post 3670569)
Imagine how bad one must feel about themselves that they post on a message board on Friday night within minutes of news about their rival, crapping all over them and the employees. All done to feel superior about themselves and their life choices.
You know those rj pilots that would **** all over their competitors over a $1/hr difference in pay or xyz contract language or how such and such company was "bringing the industry down"? Yeah, they Your APA president is a liar and your BOD is broken. To any prospective new hires looking at this from the outside, take note. Who represents you has a direct effect on what your worth in this business. Why anyone would want to be represented by APA at this point is beyond me. |
Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
(Post 3670575)
Oh please. Save the woe is me act. I’ve been on here many, many times telling anyone who will listen that APA is a garbage union (from my own personal dealings with them). And yet all many of you do is crap on me in return. I get that I’m brash and I get that I come off like an a-hole. But I’m not. I’d love to see you guys ditch APA.
Your APA president is a liar and your BOD is broken. To any prospective new hires looking at this from the outside, take note. Who represents you has a direct effect on what your worth in this business. Why anyone would want to be represented by APA at this point is beyond me. |
Originally Posted by tunes
(Post 3670362)
pathetic. thanks for continuing to ride coat tails instead of actually doing something.
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Originally Posted by thrust
(Post 3670588)
APA is a mess, no doubt… but don’t gloss over how much AA management despises its labor.
Instead, as a group, you're just an anchor weighing the rest of us down. you've had what, 2-3 bites of the apple to RAISE the bar, and failed every time. I'd be ashamed to ask for a jumpseat on DL or UAL. |
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