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Old 07-30-2023 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
They did pretty good considering it was supposed to just be a bridge until the JetBlue JCBA. Why don't you ask Spirit pilots how well ALPA did when they negotiated their industry leading QOL contract a few years ago?
Ask the 30% that voted no. Just like the 30% that will vote no here.
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Old 07-30-2023 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ACEssXfer
Did we match though? Isom has claimed the new new AA AIP is worth 9 billion. The UAL AIP is 10+ billion.
Good point. I stand corrected.
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Old 07-30-2023 | 03:50 PM
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As Sen. Everett Derksen famously said, a billion here, a billion there. soon you are talking about real money.
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Old 07-30-2023 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Armyguy
IMAX is all the empty nesters say over and over.

If it was so great for everybody then more pilots would be IMAXing yet they aren't. There is a reason for that.

Bunch of senior idiots at this company
Yes and No, anything without family obligations makes airline scheduling easier in life, IMAX or not.

More and more pilots are IMAXing, there is a reason for that, they are learning from others and just starting. Others simply don't give a crap about anything and can't be bothered to learn anything about the contract to improve their lives, more than a few over the years have had their spouses bid for them or leave money on the table every day.

Claiming some vague "there's a reason for that" is pure ignorance and stupidity, but no surprise to hear.

If you wonder where senior idiots come from, just upgrade.
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Old 07-30-2023 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
okay buddy. I guess it’s just hard for you to fathom that your airline’s management and your union lag the industry. Enjoy contract 2.0 or 3.0 or 3.5 or whatever it is.
Try not to live up the expected behavior of your past posts. Yes, I've read 10K's about airline finances about how it can affect our careers and I simply pointed out a FACT that may or may not concern you, that paying off and having no debt in the business is bad news. You may be aware of the risk, good.

I mentioned Checchi and NWA? Ring a bell. Where were you when it happened? I was reading the financial info about the fallout of a low debt company getting screwed.

Congrats on getting hired at DAL. Hopefully they can manage the CAPEX for the 757/767 replacement cost.
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Old 07-30-2023 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer
Yes and No, anything without family obligations makes airline scheduling easier in life, IMAX or not.

More and more pilots are IMAXing, there is a reason for that, they are learning from others and just starting. Others simply don't give a crap about anything and can't be bothered to learn anything about the contract to improve their lives, more than a few over the years have had their spouses bid for them or leave money on the table every day.

Claiming some vague "there's a reason for that" is pure ignorance and stupidity, but no surprise to hear.

If you wonder where senior idiots come from, just upgrade.
i will admit that was a good burn at the end. Well played sir
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Old 07-30-2023 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Armyguy
i will admit that was a good burn at the end. Well played sir
Didn't mean a personal insult to you, I spent close to 2 decades in the right seat wondering where some of these clueless company senior hacks came from( majority guys were great)

Then I upgraded and saw the clueless company hacks in the right seat (again outside majority of good guys and gals)

Best to both our careers
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Old 07-30-2023 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ACEssXfer
Did we match though? Isom has claimed the new new AA AIP is worth 9 billion. The UAL AIP is 10+ billion.
"Overall value" isn't the gauge. Isom himself is on video saying he was prepared to "match" DL. It's totally disingenuous to say AA didn't match DL, then UA on the vast majority of the bullet points, including pay tables to the penny. It's one long list of "me too" snap-ups.
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Old 07-30-2023 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer
Yes and No, anything without family obligations makes airline scheduling easier in life, IMAX or not.

More and more pilots are IMAXing, there is a reason for that, they are learning from others and just starting. Others simply don't give a crap about anything and can't be bothered to learn anything about the contract to improve their lives, more than a few over the years have had their spouses bid for them or leave money on the table every day.

Claiming some vague "there's a reason for that" is pure ignorance and stupidity, but no surprise to hear.

If you wonder where senior idiots come from, just upgrade.
I have kids at home, and I'm running into IMAX, although accidentally. Just been running my PPROJ up as high as I can tolerate in order to pay for a home under construction that always seems to be going over budget! Can't wait to slow down once it's completed, however.
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Old 07-30-2023 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Hueypilot
I have kids at home, and I'm running into IMAX, although accidentally. Just been running my PPROJ up as high as I can tolerate in order to pay for a home under construction that always seems to be going over budget! Can't wait to slow down once it's completed, however.
Thats the thing about IMAX, you’d be way better off getting a spread sheet and running a game-plan than just high flying. High flying alone will get you in IMAX hell, the negative side of IMAX where you get limited to about 75 hours and no free time off. Consider speaking with some experts.
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