Reserve Flexibility
07-07-2025 | 03:11 PM
#231
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Those two things should create more lineholders and fewer reserves without changing staffing levels. It might even require a few more since a reserve can be assigned more days of flying than the average lineholder.
07-07-2025 | 03:27 PM
#232
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Lower line values, less reserve staffing, more use of premium to cover the gap when the reserves get used up….sounds like whichever air line that did that could make some serious money.
07-07-2025 | 03:36 PM
#233
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They can 'push the button' anytime they like. Obviously it's better to push it before it makes the trip late but their only contractual obligation is to leave it up for 15 minutes if it's 4? hours before show.
Therefore if they see that doing it now would burn someone later in the week when they think they might need more coverage and waiting an hour brings a whole new batch of pilots QLA because of RAP times then they might wait.
Therefore if they see that doing it now would burn someone later in the week when they think they might need more coverage and waiting an hour brings a whole new batch of pilots QLA because of RAP times then they might wait.
To be the pilot who DIDN'T get the trip and instead got to spend your last day (or two) of the block unused and then be on here complaining about it...that might be the most APC complaint ever.
07-07-2025 | 04:13 PM
#234
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…Let's see what happens when the low line option gets implemented in PBS.
Those two things should create more lineholders and fewer reserves without changing staffing levels. It might even require a few more since a reserve can be assigned more days of flying than the average lineholder.
Those two things should create more lineholders and fewer reserves without changing staffing levels. It might even require a few more since a reserve can be assigned more days of flying than the average lineholder.
What exactly is the “low line” and when is it scheduled to be implemented?
thanks
07-07-2025 | 04:56 PM
#235
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Whilst I agree with almost every point above I am not sure whether you actually end up getting 'better trips'. Even as a relatively junior lineholder, you have almost unlimited flexibility to drop/trade trips to your liking (off-season that is).
07-07-2025 | 07:44 PM
#236
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If you look at the CBA implementation timeline it's pretty much the last thing.
07-07-2025 | 08:52 PM
#237
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A small number of senior pilots might desire more reserves to increase their chances of not getting called but fewer reserves would benefit the majority of the pilot group. Seniority is great and all but making things massively worse for the majority to benefit a tiny sliver of the population is absurd.
07-08-2025 | 04:05 AM
#238
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Reducing the number of reserve pilots has no effect on the number of lineholding pilots. You can't just manufacture more lines because there "should" be less reserves. The number of lineholders is a function of total block hours, average line value, and the margin of error of the optimizer (rig pay). They increased the number of lineholders by placing limitations on the line construction window, which just spreads out the flying a little more but doesn't provide any increase in economic value to the pilots.
Advocating for less reserve pilots, given no resulting increase in flying or adjustments to the LCW, just means less pilots. Advocating for less reserve pilots hurts us as a pilot group and the prospects of future AA pilots.
Advocating for less reserve pilots, given no resulting increase in flying or adjustments to the LCW, just means less pilots. Advocating for less reserve pilots hurts us as a pilot group and the prospects of future AA pilots.
Not everything in life is about squeezing every dollar imaginable out of AA. Flying more spread out with a lower LCW is more flexibility. At the end of the day if you want to work more you can just pick something up. If you want to work less thats not always an option on months that are locked down.
I don't care about pilots that don't currently work at AA. I want the best for pilots that are here right now. APA's(and your) historical stance on "increasing jobs at AA is good for us" is what has led to where we are. It's a failed philosophy.
07-08-2025 | 07:14 AM
#239
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Yes. I want this. Full stop.
Not everything in life is about squeezing every dollar imaginable out of AA. Flying more spread out with a lower LCW is more flexibility. At the end of the day if you want to work more you can just pick something up. If you want to work less thats not always an option on months that are locked down.
I don't care about pilots that don't currently work at AA. I want the best for pilots that are here right now. APA's(and your) historical stance on "increasing jobs at AA is good for us" is what has led to where we are. It's a failed philosophy.
Not everything in life is about squeezing every dollar imaginable out of AA. Flying more spread out with a lower LCW is more flexibility. At the end of the day if you want to work more you can just pick something up. If you want to work less thats not always an option on months that are locked down.
I don't care about pilots that don't currently work at AA. I want the best for pilots that are here right now. APA's(and your) historical stance on "increasing jobs at AA is good for us" is what has led to where we are. It's a failed philosophy.
No kidding. If i do 80h as an FO mandatory with 15 days off.
Or upgrade CA and do 50h with 20 days off and make the same. That's a no brainer. I dont need the extra $10k a month to be stuck with more days on with upgrading.
07-08-2025 | 02:52 PM
#240
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APA's position is valid but self serving. More members means more dues. I don't necessarily like it but it does mean we get better representation and it also doesn't mean we have to disagree with them just because their motivations are different. It doesn't change the fact that more pilots at American is better for current AA pilots.
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