Another quarter getting spanked by the competition. Made money but $750 million or so less than the Delta and United. Also probably little to NO profit for the year. How long can this management keep their jobs?

Potential new hires please take note. Do Not expect profit sharing at AA.

Embarrassing.

 

”American on Thursday forecast a 2025 adjusted per-share loss of as much as 20 cents or earnings of as much as 80 cents, down from adjusted earnings estimates of between $1.70 to $2.70 it made in January. American, along with other airlines, pulledits 2025 financial outlook in April as carriers grappled with on-again-off-again tariffs and weaker-than-expected domestic demand.”

Going from $1.70 to $2.70 earnings to as much as 80 cents loss is a huge swing. AA as usual simply seems ruderless and without a clear objective like DL and UAL. If you can’t make money in this environment where people are packing planes (for the most part), can’t imagine how ugly it will get if people decide to pull back substantially on travel. While the AA job itself seems pretty good from many friends there, the financial uncertainty is just too great.

 

Rest assured that the BoD is still content and Bobby Ice will still be paid a nice bonus on par with our competitors.

Would new management truly save this place?

 

If that new management had a cohesive vision and the competency to implement it, absolutely yes. DAL and UAL aren't killing it financially by accident.

Even something as simple as the amount of fuel this company wastes on APU usage and 3 engine taxiing. It's unnecessary and costs this company untold millions.

 

United during the smisek was probably even worse and look how quickly they turned it around. Delta in the mid to early 2000s was run into the ground by Mullins and by 2008 they were already turning it around.

 

What an awkward CNBC interview. Isom seems so tense

 

Totally agree. I watched an 319 waiting for a gate for 45 minutes. It was waiting to be guided in. It was the plane that I was to take out. It was all lined up for about 10 feet short of guidance line with no turns required. I remarked to the FO that both engines still running. He remarked APU too. 45 minutes later still burning all three motors.

On top of leadership issues are culture problems. The sheer magnitude of I don’t give a crap is crippling. For me it doesn’t really matter. I don’t need the job other than benefits and money to buy more crap to play with. It’s a pride thing.
I hope it turns around but future pilots be forewarned that it is a very frustrating place to work. Until you have enough cash in the bank then be very wary of the AA way.

All airlines suck. We just suck more. I will not buy tickets on AA because I know it will be a mistake. I have 150K+ miles on Delta. Even at a 20% discount I avoid us.

It’s all employee groups with culture problems. I recently A3 home from training. Made it to airport for earlier flight.. Mayhem at gate of course. Agent gives me a middle seat in back of plane. Chatted with Captain and Delta Pilot while waiting. Delta Pilot gets more room coach seat and an isle. He offered to swap with me. He just could not believe the agent could or would do this. I let him keep his seat and told him she probably hates Pilots. Up until recently it was not a positive space ticket home from training. I have waited for multiple flights home in the past. The AA way.

 

Brutal reading these posts. Systemic culture issues can absolutely cripple a work group….probably reflects on quarterly rev as well.

Would a swap to ALPA help the culture/contract problem?

 

https://simpleflying.com/american-ai...2xLgKLxRRoXldA

Hey at least your regional operation is growing!

 

Found the guy who shuts down the APU when it's 100° outside