Same. You're also junior to gate agents hired during the Regan administration, too.

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You can have the gate agents roll it over, or you can change to a D1 pass, but in the case of an IROP, you're probably hosed either way.

 

why would an American ramper that works very hard every day and just wants to visit his dying mother have to be on the standby list behind some new hire fos screaming 3 year old?

 

How out of touch do you have to be to think there are pilots out there who still work for "Eagle"?

 

You don't want to see what it looks like with pure seniority space A travel. Imagine you're commuting, and the night before there are 15 seats. You put in for both a jumpseat and a seat in the back.

When you show up to the airport, you all of a sudden see that there are 20 listed for the 15 seats, 3/4 of which are 1990s hires FAs, their 20-year old kids, and their spouses, and a handful of senior captains. You're out of luck for the back of the plane. The jumpseat only shows you, though. You're going to make it!

Then, as you're waiting for a flight to board, a senior captain with a mustache, cell phone holster and tasseled penny loafers shows up at gate. He proceeds to grab the jump seat, and you're left stranded for your commute. The best you might get from him is a "sorry bud, best luck next time".

Many such cases. Don't ask for this, because it's hell.

 

Envoy captains make what $200+ish an hour now. Yup. It ain't eagle anymore.

 

It isn’t.

Delta, Southwest, JetBlue, Spirit, Frontier, and other carriers allow pilots to use cabin jumpseats.

 

I could be wrong- usually am- but it I think the author of the title of this thread and anyone else referring to “Eagle” just didn’t want to type out “wholly-owned” or Envoy/PSA/Piedmont. I don’t think they are out of touch (with who works for whom) at all. I think it was probably just easier/lazier to say “Eagle”.

We all know who “eagle” pilots work for.

 

The FA jumpseat issue is a legitimate problem, but it's entirely caused by the FA union APFA. The FAs intentionally lock pilots out of the jumpseat in a spiteful attempt to get flight deck jumpseat access. This is what happens when there's no quality control on FA conduct.

I'm willing to bet the company would prefer pilots have access to empty FA jumpseats since it would improve reliability and reduce commuter misses.

 

Agreed. Absolutely childish.

 

The APFA swooping in to piggyback our weight restricted jumpseat clause we negotiated was awesome too…