R57 relay

Starting to get to you cacti?

On Cleary we agree and if you remember correctly I always felt that way about him.

cactiboss

I'm not the one that is all upset the TA triggered ripeness.

cactiboss

Funny, yet he enjoys wide support from your pilots. How about the clt chairman? I really think your leaders are an accurate reflection of your group.

Wiskey Driver

So what you are saying is that under DOH the bottom east f/0 does not elevate to captain is that your position?

WD at AWA

crzipilot

Easy solution to that. No East can bid West captain slot until all west f/o's have been able to bid that position

Problem Solved.....

eaglefly

.....and the same should be true of current AA pilots regarding orders/options slated for AA. All AA F/O's should have the opportunity to hold group II captain and W/B captain for wide body rights, before any U pilot and vise-versa.

Another problem solved.

I'm sure there will be little interest from both the east and especially the west on that. It will be the west pilots that hope for a early place on the red/white/blue carpet to the AA order/option candy store, I'm sure. ;-)

R57 relay

Not exactly sure what you are asking. Are you saying that under DOH the bottom east F/O is senior to west captains? That's not the case because the bottom east F/O was hired sometime last week.

First of all, if you will remember I've said that I didn't think DOH was the end-all and be-all of SLIs. But what I really think you mean is that under USAPA's plan, east pilots that were furloughed in 2005 would be place senior to west pilots that were captains in 2005. That would happen, but C&Rs would prohibit them from taking those west pilots jobs. Now, I don't think the C&Rs were go enough and couldn't come up with any there were good enough since I believe that PHX will shrink under any scenario.

You are one of the west people that is locked into the thought that if someone was against the Nic then they thought it had to be DOH. I've told you that isn't the case for many, maybe even most of the east.

Does that answer your question, or did I misunderstand?

R57 relay

The TA didn't trigger ripeness. If it had we wouldn't be here.

R57 relay

How wide spread was his support? Do you really know?

Thing is, you guys don't understand this pilot group. Nobody outside can understand it because they haven't lived what we've been through. So many guys have just tuned out and let the others run things. Unfortunate, but reality.

I've disagreed with much our CLT leaders believe and have let them know. They are probably the hardest working reps we've ever had and that is why they get so much support, IMHO.

R57 relay

All pilots just want what they brought to the merger............until they see what they can get, then they don't! You can't overcome human nature.