American interviews and class dates
03-30-2014, 05:26 AM
#1351
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Posts: 81
Originally Posted by redthread
On average, what's the spread from earliest to latest start dates for training after indoc? I've heard from two-six weeks following the end of indoc.
03-30-2014, 08:37 PM
#1352
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Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: Bent Over
Posts: 96
For those who may be interested, I wrote down some numbers while doing a little research.
As of today.
The most junior position in the company is, DFW S80 Dom.
In the list below, the large number is relative position by base of the most junior pilot, in the most junior equipment, as an FO.
This list considers only current FO's ON property (no deferred furloughs, no long term leaves included), the rest is self explanatory (I hope):
Rel. Base Equip
4416 DFW S80 D (most junior FO in the company as of today's current info)
4415 LGA 320 D
4414 MIA 767 I
4149 ORD S80 D
4011 DCA S80 D
3912 LAX 320 D
3470 BOS 737 D
3383 STL S80 D
1212 SFO 737 D
As of today.
The most junior position in the company is, DFW S80 Dom.
In the list below, the large number is relative position by base of the most junior pilot, in the most junior equipment, as an FO.
This list considers only current FO's ON property (no deferred furloughs, no long term leaves included), the rest is self explanatory (I hope):
Rel. Base Equip
4416 DFW S80 D (most junior FO in the company as of today's current info)
4415 LGA 320 D
4414 MIA 767 I
4149 ORD S80 D
4011 DCA S80 D
3912 LAX 320 D
3470 BOS 737 D
3383 STL S80 D
1212 SFO 737 D
03-31-2014, 01:58 AM
#1353
La Familia Delta
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: B-717 FO / C-17 AC
Posts: 2,467
Originally Posted by Freeflyfreak
For those who may be interested, I wrote down some numbers while doing a little research.
As of today.
The most junior position in the company is, DFW S80 Dom.
In the list below, the large number is relative position by base of the most junior pilot, in the most junior equipment, as an FO.
This list considers only current FO's ON property (no deferred furloughs, no long term leaves included), the rest is self explanatory (I hope):
Rel. Base Equip
4416 DFW S80 D (most junior FO in the company as of today's current info)
4415 LGA 320 D
4414 MIA 767 I
4149 ORD S80 D
4011 DCA S80 D
3912 LAX 320 D
3470 BOS 737 D
3383 STL S80 D
1212 SFO 737 D
As of today.
The most junior position in the company is, DFW S80 Dom.
In the list below, the large number is relative position by base of the most junior pilot, in the most junior equipment, as an FO.
This list considers only current FO's ON property (no deferred furloughs, no long term leaves included), the rest is self explanatory (I hope):
Rel. Base Equip
4416 DFW S80 D (most junior FO in the company as of today's current info)
4415 LGA 320 D
4414 MIA 767 I
4149 ORD S80 D
4011 DCA S80 D
3912 LAX 320 D
3470 BOS 737 D
3383 STL S80 D
1212 SFO 737 D
03-31-2014, 04:13 AM
#1354
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: 737 CA MIA
Posts: 1,042
Originally Posted by Freeflyfreak
For those who may be interested, I wrote down some numbers while doing a little research.
As of today.
The most junior position in the company is, DFW S80 Dom.
In the list below, the large number is relative position by base of the most junior pilot, in the most junior equipment, as an FO.
This list considers only current FO's ON property (no deferred furloughs, no long term leaves included), the rest is self explanatory (I hope):
Rel. Base Equip
4416 DFW S80 D (most junior FO in the company as of today's current info)
4415 LGA 320 D
4414 MIA 767 I
4149 ORD S80 D
4011 DCA S80 D
3912 LAX 320 D
3470 BOS 737 D
3383 STL S80 D
1212 SFO 737 D
As of today.
The most junior position in the company is, DFW S80 Dom.
In the list below, the large number is relative position by base of the most junior pilot, in the most junior equipment, as an FO.
This list considers only current FO's ON property (no deferred furloughs, no long term leaves included), the rest is self explanatory (I hope):
Rel. Base Equip
4416 DFW S80 D (most junior FO in the company as of today's current info)
4415 LGA 320 D
4414 MIA 767 I
4149 ORD S80 D
4011 DCA S80 D
3912 LAX 320 D
3470 BOS 737 D
3383 STL S80 D
1212 SFO 737 D
May I ask with a little sarcasm What company is that?
You see because I am a pilot for American Airlines. And you have just posted Captain Relative seniority numbers.
And they are also wrong.
Junior captain at AA in LAX is 5550 ish. S80
New hire seniority numbers are 9959-10,050.
Junior captain in ORD S80 5300 ish.
Junior captain in MIA is 5,200.
If anyone has questions for AA pilots please ask Sliceback, aa73, Forever FO, myself, TQ Nola and there are others.
Now if the the poster was referring to another company airline that has bases in LAX,ORD,DFW,MIA,BOS,DCA,and JFK then i'm sorry that I misinterpreted your post.
Or if you were posting an AA snapshot from 1985. In 1986 AA hired it's first 5,000th pilot on seniority list.
03-31-2014, 04:42 AM
#1355
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Window seat
Posts: 5,213
Not completely sure but I think he's showing out of 4400 FO's where the junior guy is. So it's relative seniority amongst 4400 FO's and not a seniority number.
IE, SFO 1212 means if you're not in the top 25% of FO's you're not getting SFO.
IE, SFO 1212 means if you're not in the top 25% of FO's you're not getting SFO.
03-31-2014, 04:53 AM
#1356
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Window seat
Posts: 5,213
"Or if you were posting an AA snapshot from 1985. In 1986 AA hired it's first 5,000th pilot on seniority list."
5000 seniority was popped in late 1985. Some of the guys dropped below 5000 in 1986 and were 5000+ again after the AirCal merger.
5000 seniority was popped in late 1985. Some of the guys dropped below 5000 in 1986 and were 5000+ again after the AirCal merger.
03-31-2014, 06:10 AM
#1357
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,889
7576,
Like Slice said - Freeflyfreak was showing relative position of the most junior FOs in each base... Not their actual seniority #s.
I had the good fortune of sharing a few beers and laughs with Freeflyfreak earlier this month in DFW while in training. He is a good dude and posts accurate stuff.
See ya!
73
Like Slice said - Freeflyfreak was showing relative position of the most junior FOs in each base... Not their actual seniority #s.
I had the good fortune of sharing a few beers and laughs with Freeflyfreak earlier this month in DFW while in training. He is a good dude and posts accurate stuff.
See ya!
73
03-31-2014, 09:15 AM
#1358
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,533
Yes he is, and I've known him for years, but I have to admit that I believe he chose a confusing way to illustrate his point. In all honesty, I believe you should've stuck with simple straight seniority numbers, Freefly...
03-31-2014, 10:57 AM
#1359
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: 737 CA MIA
Posts: 1,042
My apologies to flyfreaky!
I still not understand new pilot math. Me no get it.
So someone who is not employed by AA and has filled out an application and comes to this site is supposed to understand? Understand by adding those numbers to the most junior captain at AA = FO rel sen?
I know this sounds harsh.
Know the audience. I work here and I didn't understand his post.
Make it impossible to be misunderstood.
I still not understand new pilot math. Me no get it.
So someone who is not employed by AA and has filled out an application and comes to this site is supposed to understand? Understand by adding those numbers to the most junior captain at AA = FO rel sen?
I know this sounds harsh.
Know the audience. I work here and I didn't understand his post.
Make it impossible to be misunderstood.
03-31-2014, 11:27 AM
#1360
La Familia Delta
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: B-717 FO / C-17 AC
Posts: 2,467
Originally Posted by 7576FO
My apologies to flyfreaky!
I still not understand new pilot math. Me no get it.
So someone who is not employed by AA and has filled out an application and comes to this site is supposed to understand? Understand by adding those numbers to the most junior captain at AA = FO rel sen?
I know this sounds harsh.
Know the audience. I work here and I didn't understand his post.
Make it impossible to be misunderstood.
I still not understand new pilot math. Me no get it.
So someone who is not employed by AA and has filled out an application and comes to this site is supposed to understand? Understand by adding those numbers to the most junior captain at AA = FO rel sen?
I know this sounds harsh.
Know the audience. I work here and I didn't understand his post.
Make it impossible to be misunderstood.
. Will they grow LAX?
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