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Old 02-17-2014 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Not the clearest post. What's your point? Someone hired post merger at AA (possibly not even hired yet..)is going to be senior to an Airways pilot on the list before the close of the merger?
No. My point is for what many are already writing off for both pilot groups post merger date announcement. It is assumed that anyone hired at either side after the merger date will be merged DOH. I don't have much evidence except that APA is going to bring the fight hard and probably get their way and that most people can see it's easier to get hired at US than it is at AA. All of that will come into play. But at least one poster has already written "(post merger-new hires) is going to be a complete non-issue during the SLI. It will be DOH" and my point is that is not for certain.
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Old 02-17-2014 | 09:30 AM
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Shy.. Between MAD and Approval how many were "new hires" at AA? I believe only one class. Is that who you are talking about? Only US actually hired from MAD to approval.

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Old 02-17-2014 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
No. My point is for what many are already writing off for both pilot groups post merger date announcement. It is assumed that anyone hired at either side after the merger date will be merged DOH. I don't have much evidence except that APA is going to bring the fight hard and probably get their way and that most people can see it's easier to get hired at US than it is at AA. All of that will come into play. But at least one poster has already written "(post merger-new hires) is going to be a complete non-issue during the SLI. It will be DOH" and my point is that is not for certain.
I know definitive statements are tough to stand by, and of course nothing is for certain. If it doesn't go DOH for the new hires, then you can expect that the rest of the SLI was probably a bloodbath. The arbitrator has a mess on his hands here, theyre going to be so in over their heads with the east/west/apa integration for pre-2001 hires that the hiring over the past couple years will seem totally miniscule. Im not saying people wont be upset, someone is always upset. But new hires have the least to lose here anyway.
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Old 02-17-2014 | 09:52 AM
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Post MAD is the easiest integration for the arbitrator. DOH
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Old 02-17-2014 | 10:06 AM
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Take it to the SLI thread, or the AOL thread or the arbitration thread or the Nicolau thread, or the protocol thread or merger committee thread......or one of the many other *****fests.
No need to turn this thread into another seniority integration thread, there are plenty already in existence that repeat the same BS over and over again.
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Old 02-17-2014 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Freeflyfreak
Take it to the SLI thread, or the AOL thread or the arbitration thread or the Nicolau thread, or the protocol thread or merger committee thread......or one of the many other *****fests.
No need to turn this thread into another seniority integration thread, there are plenty already in existence that repeat the same BS over and over again.
You're right bud. Sorry about that. I'll blame it on Shy though. Back to interviews and class dates.
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Old 02-17-2014 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
most people can see it's easier to get hired at US than it is at AA.
What is US Airway's acceptance rate? I was under the impression that it was closer to 50% rather than the 80% it seems for AA. It looks like US Airways' hiring process is more personality driven rather than data driven. Just an outside looking in observation..
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Old 02-17-2014 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Roper92
What is US Airway's acceptance rate? I was under the impression that it was closer to 50% rather than the 80% it seems for AA. It looks like US Airways' hiring process is more personality driven rather than data driven. Just an outside looking in observation..
From my observation and personal experience you are correct. US is extremely random on initial selection and then yes it's all about the personality and being able to discuss your background and professional traits.
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Old 02-17-2014 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
most people can see it's easier to get hired at US than it is at AA.
There's no validity to this statement at all.
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Old 02-17-2014 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
No. My point is for what many are already writing off for both pilot groups post merger date announcement. It is assumed that anyone hired at either side after the merger date will be merged DOH. I don't have much evidence except that APA is going to bring the fight hard and probably get their way and that most people can see it's easier to get hired at US than it is at AA. All of that will come into play. But at least one poster has already written "(post merger-new hires) is going to be a complete non-issue during the SLI. It will be DOH" and my point is that is not for certain.
I agree with you on the last part. Everyone said in regard to the UAL/CAL merger that "no furlough has ever been placed above an active pilot" well the UAL/CAL merger changed that, they have furloughed UAL pilots placed in front of 2008 CAL hires. Nothing in this process is a sure thing and I hope it goes to arbitration because I have no faith in usapa representing third listers at all. If they could sell us all down the river to gain a few spots on the final list they wouldn't think twice about it.
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