7576FO

Recap:

If you are in new hire training. Pick the 73.

When you're new and going form FO seat on a 757 then next trip FB to Europe and then back to FO 757 then FB on a 757. If you're flying 77 hour months on reserve that is good when you're new.
But say flying 35 hours your first month on line, then going from 757 to 767
can be alot for a new guy.

When i went to the 75/767 in 2000. My first 90 days I did not fly a 757. I did all my IOE on the 767. My first landing on the 757 was with a 10 knot tailwind. I told the CA I did not want to do it. He insisted. I had forgotten that 757 requires to hold the nosewheel off on landing longer than 767 and bang loud hard nosewheel landing.

I had flown S80 for 4 years before 757/767.

I just checked the 767 I FO's are flying through today the 20th 45 hours to average 56 hours with the most junior high time guy at 77 hours.

We used to NOT let new hires fly the 757/767. Simply because there is too much stuff. With every Europe checkout there is an additional 45 minute Hawaii briefing.
A new hire with a check airman could get a La Paz Bolivia trip if he has less than 75 hours. That is ridiculous.
The new Quito Ecuador airport is easier, but still a very serious operation.

Just giving info here, to help newhires. If you do get the 757/767 contact your mentor. Use him her to help yourself.
I was texting several Flow thru's while they were in training.

R57 relay

Sounds like good advise and can apply to US too. We are going to put some new hires on the 75/76 and I think it is a mistake. Our 75/76 flying isn't as challenging as AA's, but I still don't think it's a good place to start. IMHO that is on a domestic narrow body, seeing a lot of different cities, then moving to other aircraft as F/O. That way by the time you are ready to check out you will have seen it all.

aapilotguy

Has this always been the case? Me and another guy in class got 320 LGA and want to bid out of NY ASAP. We were told that the lock in is 6 months and we can only get out of NY sooner by bidding to the same aircraft in another base. The guy also said we can be withheld from a new bid status for an additional 6 months for a total of 12 months on our initial assignment.

7576FO

There is a "mutual base exchange" which is part of the unions website. You cannot be the bottom guy.
The only other 319/321 bases are LAX and DFW. For now.

Once you are in the union, you can go to the website and click on mutual base exchange. Mutual base exchange is for base only but same equipment. Neither of you can be the bottom guy. As we hire more and fill more slots you may be able to take advantage of this or get a vacancy same plane but different base.

Or have a preference bid in for DFW or LAX.

The vacancy run goes monthly.

Hope this helps or personal message me.

Welcome!

VenetianFryCook

I'm not sure I agree. Especially with GRU/GIG going to the 330, the 757/767 flying is not much different than the little Bus with Europe thrown in. I've not seen anything to the islands on the 75/76 that I haven't already done on the 'bus ... SXM, SJU, PUJ, CUN, SJO, etc.

Now Europe is a lot to soak up, for sure, but it too is doable.

Like everything else you get out what you put in. A solid pilot who puts in the requisite effort can handle the 757/767 just fine.

7576FO

Also New Hires:

NY is not that bad. I have numerous friends that love it. they are in pretty cool crashpads. You learn your way around fast.

So if you're thinking of bidding MIA, I must warn you that the employee lot at MIA is SCARY! Think Everglades. You've been warned.

7576FO

767 and 777 at AA still do Circle and Tick and plot position.

ghilis101

I'd feel right at home, we still do that as well at my airline and AF I'd probably bid 76 as my second choice because I could skate thru training, its like a -400 with 2 less engines, but the airbus sounds like its the best bang for the buck, easy to learn and fly, and decent sched. Lots of transcon.

aapilotguy

NY definitely seemed like a very cool base when we had base orientation. We met a good group of people at JFK. Flying the bus and doing the transcon seems like the easiest job in the world. Commuting up to JFK is the problem for me. I'm a Florida guy, so MIA would be ideal, or even DFW.

7576FO

While the 747-400 is closer to 777 in Comm and some systems, you'd do well on the 7576. Once you've flown a Boeing they're all somewhat similar.

Things are getting better at AA. Just 2 years ago it was miserable to go to work. Everyone had a frowny face emoticon on.

Recallees coming back, flow thrus and new hires ALL happy to have you guys!

While I do complain about reserve issues and trip trading is difficult (for now) things are gonna get better.

And for everyone hiring on and interviewing this is a great time.

Ask any questions here.


But before you bid Miami go watch Noah's Ark (the Movie Feb 28) The employee lot is know to flood with light rain.
When in the terminal at MIA at Au Bon Pan (a french restaurant) you must order in Spanish. You cannot order in English. You must think in Spanish.

"Do you think you can do that Mr Gant? In Russian, You must think in Russian." Firefox.