Jetwash

I've said it before:

Life isn't fair
There is no justice
Timing is everything

3 rules of life.

I get that it's been a raw deal for a lot and to think that any pilot isn't going to ***** about it would be crazy. At some point or another we all have paid our dues...some more than others. No one gets here with anything handed to them on a silver platter. It takes a lot of work and sacrifice for any of us to get this far without imploding ones family, finances etc..

I get riled up because a lot of people come here for new hire info or are awaiting the next step in the interview process. What they don't come for is the bitter ranting of old pilots. They will get plenty of that when they show up for their 4 day down the road.

For those that are on this thread looking for relevant information and contributing, I have had a great experience thus far at AA (LUS side). So take it all with a grain.


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Dalma459

Any info on why american isn't hiring it's interns as much as united and delta is? Stinks to do an internship and not have an interview yet.

Sliceback

No clue. Some interns apparently have gotten hired. What's your resume look like without the internship?

Aviatrx

Not sure about Dalma's, but mine looks damn good as well as many others I know of. In fact IMO, a lot better than many of the people who I know that are getting the job. None of them are being called. All of my friends who have done internships with UA have been interviewed and hired. My guess is that it doesn't carry much weight anymore.

iPilot6

This.... this, this and this. And these rules could not be more true than in the airline industry.

Just do the best we can, hope for the best, and hang on!

Iowa Farm Boy

Uh, that's not correct.

Pass IOE and you got a number at the end of the next NH Class.

24 months later you went over at first year pay, and bid your seniority of the slots available for THAT NH Class. That is why so many guys passed- couldn't afford the pay cut.

The only guys that went over at 3rd yr pay were the guys from the Arbitration Award.

Eaglepilot84

In reality, a lot of the guys who went over via arbitration did pretty well. They avoided furlough, all the while making 6 figures at eagle at top of seniority. Then were able to go over at 3rd and 4th year pay. Not exactly ideal and what they planned for, but it worked out well for a few once the arbitration was handed down...

Dalma459

It's more than qualified. Just stinks we Haven't been called.

encore

A large majority of the new-hires at American are flowthroughs. There just aren't a lot of spots left for anyone else.

Its hard to get a job there based on your own merit when so many people have negotiated their way into the new-hire classes.

TOGAANG

I'm a mil OTS hire and I'll tell you that the flow through was an offer from the company to help attract more new hires to their wholey owned regional carriers. If AA offered a similar contract to mil guys I'm sure we would take it too!!! Let's not bash put a cloud over a flow-through because they got a contract signed off from the company allowing they to flow to AA. 90% are good dudes and some do slip through the cracks but that is the same with a true OTS hire. I waited over a year with a CJO to start watching flows and others start. It is what it is. They earned it just like we have.

The bigger battle is once we are all at AA let's be one team and unify to negotiate better QOL and not divide the company between LUS, LAA, America West and OTS vs Flows. The company will retire 75% of their pilots by 2030. The company will be ours to shape it into what we want it to be. We need to unify not divide.