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Old 03-18-2016 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Maverick


i picked Eagle to be able to drive to work in Miami. Is it so bad to expect what was promised to you, like a contract they expect you to comply with But violate when they want

When did they promise new hires, let alone flows throughs 16 years ago, that they'd be able to drive to MIA whenever they choose to?
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Old 03-18-2016 | 03:35 PM
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In the crew news yesterday Doug stopped just shy of saying the 190s are going away.
Those of you that go to the 190 will make more money than those getting the bus first year. Movement is fast on the 190 and you'll be holding a line after a few months. You'll get the AB for second year when your seatlock is up. If you're lucky you'll get held for a while and collect AB pay while flying a nice 190 schedule.
Reserve on the AB is over 2 years.
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Old 03-18-2016 | 04:52 PM
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It's the pilot way. My lot is good so F off and leave if AA has not lived up to your expectations as a career. Unity abounds!

Sadly what you guys fail to realize is that the airlines haven't lived up to anyone's expectation in the last 15 years unless you got hired at FedEx in 2000. Soo, embrace reality and get with the times and program and realize the game has changed. The only thing that hasn't is the bickering and griping from pilots along the way.

Yeah, I got mine so F off. That's exactly what I said.



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Old 03-18-2016 | 05:02 PM
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Cool the new hire is back to tell everyone how great it is and how they should just be happy to be here...

Yeah I'm here to let you old fogies know there is an appropriate place for the hate speech and vitriol against AA...it's called C&R.

Most people come here for good relevant information about AA interviews. Not this trolling


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Old 03-18-2016 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
When did they promise new hires, let alone flows throughs 16 years ago, that they'd be able to drive to MIA whenever they choose to?
16 years ago the flow was a lot different. Pass IOE as a RJ jet captain you got an AA seniority number. 24 months later you went to training 3rd year pay holding pretty much any base you wanted(like MIA). So yes that was the deal a lot of us signed up for 16 years ago.
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Old 03-18-2016 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AbleHigher
Anyone know how long it typically takes to hear back following an interview? Our group hasn't heard and over 3 weeks now.


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Sorry to hear it's taking so long to hear back. Back when I interviewed LUS, I didn't hear back for almost 2 months. Stay patient. Don't listen to FullofLuv - he doesn't even work for AA and he makes himself feel better by talking negatively about other companies. Worst part is the wait though. Take the comments on the board with a grain of salt. I've been here over 2 years and enjoy the job and coming to work here. Best of luck and hope you hear back soon!
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Old 03-18-2016 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Skubajet
Able,

Sorry to hear it's taking so long to hear back. Back when I interviewed LUS, I didn't hear back for almost 2 months. Stay patient. Don't listen to FullofLuv - he doesn't even work for AA and he makes himself feel better by talking negatively about other companies. Worst part is the wait though. Take the comments on the board with a grain of salt. I've been here over 2 years and enjoy the job and coming to work here. Best of luck and hope you hear back soon!
Yes Skuba, I am not an AA pilot, but I was once had a CJO many moons ago from AA. I have many friends (literally over a dozen) at AA and would like to see AA mgmt get it together and quit treating their employees as major costs centers.
As I mentioned, last year they had guys waiting in a pool for nearly a year without any communication, good or bad. People have lives and commitments so a little info can go a long way.
I had high hopes for them when the merger went through, but with a CEO who says employees have little impact on whether AA makes a profit, my friends say they still don't feel especially valued by AA.

I am glad you like AA and coming to work, and for the most part, my friends do as well, but there is always room for mgmt improvement.... at any company! Best of luck to you and Able.
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Old 03-18-2016 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Maverick
16 years ago the flow was a lot different. Pass IOE as a RJ jet captain you got an AA seniority number. 24 months later you went to training 3rd year pay holding pretty much any base you wanted(like MIA). So yes that was the deal a lot of us signed up for 16 years ago.
Wow, Mav. I was there long before you, and lived through the whole mess brought on by 9/11. The game changed. It is what it is.

Nobody cares that you feel like you somehow got short changed by the whole mess; and you need to check in with reality and realize that regardless of which side of the company or which jet you initially start out in, in the long run you've managed to get a job flying for the largest airline in the world - one with massive upcoming retirements, advancement, and potential upgrades to captain in less than ten years. You are escaping the uncertain turmoil of the Regional Airline sector for a Legacy airline that will likely still be around when you retire. One that pays 16% into your 401(k). One that has new captains who spent twenty years in the right seat at AA waiting for their chance to finally upgrade. Most of those - pretty much all of them - are great people to fly with. They do not carry the negative attitude that maybe they earned the right to express. What some of them HAVE told me is that there are quite of few of us ex-Eagle guys who carry around a really negative attitude, and it gets old.

I agree, and it's embarrassing to me that a bunch guys like you who never had to interview for this job, but rather had it handed to them on a silver platter, have the audacity to come in here with a bad attitude. Get over it and yourself. Cry me a damn river. Almost all of us before have had to commute on Reserve for a year or more before finally getting based near home. It is what it is.

As I said, I was AE. I was there a lot longer than you. I feel privileged and lucky to fly for AA. I fly with awesome guys with mostly great attitudes. I love this job, for better and for worse. It's a heck of a lot better than Eagle ever was.

(Damn, I hope you're not another one of us to bring a crappy self entitled attitude into the cockpit. You make us all look bad by doing so)

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Old 03-19-2016 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Wow, Mav. I was there long before you, and lived through the whole mess brought on by 9/11. The game changed. It is what it is.

Nobody cares that you feel like you somehow got short changed by the whole mess; and you need to check in with reality and realize that regardless of which side of the company or which jet you initially start out in, in the long run you've managed to get a job flying for the largest airline in the world - one with massive upcoming retirements, advancement, and potential upgrades to captain in less than ten years. You are escaping the uncertain turmoil of the Regional Airline sector for a Legacy airline that will likely still be around when you retire. One that pays 16% into your 401(k). One that has new captains who spent twenty years in the right seat at AA waiting for their chance to finally upgrade. Most of those - pretty much all of them - are great people to fly with. They do not carry the negative attitude that maybe they earned the right to express. What some of them HAVE told me is that there are quite of few of us ex-Eagle guys who carry around a really negative attitude, and it gets old.

I agree, and it's embarrassing to me that a bunch guys like you who never had to interview for this job, but rather had it handed to them on a silver platter, have the audacity to come in here with a bad attitude. Get over it and yourself. Cry me a damn river. Almost all of us before have had to commute on Reserve for a year or more before finally getting based near home. It is what it is.

As I said, I was AE. I was there a lot longer than you. I feel privileged and lucky to fly for AA. I fly with awesome guys with mostly great attitudes. I love this job, for better and for worse. It's a heck of a lot better than Eagle ever was.

(Damn, I hope you're not another one of us to bring a crappy self entitled attitude into the cockpit. You make us all look bad by doing so)

Just wait-

Mav will be demanding 16 years AA seniority now.
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Old 03-19-2016 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice

it's embarrassing to me that a bunch guys like you who never had to interview for this job, but rather had it handed to them on a silver platter,
Well, this part is complete BS.

Working for AMR for 16 years isn't enough of an interview? Flying AA passengers, training in the same building, getting paid from the same place, using the same IT systems, doing the same job.. it was basically the same company just with a much smaller pay check. Give me a break.

There is no silver platter for us at Eagle after all we have been through with this company, that is for sure. All of us flowing here at Eagle have paid our dues to this company for a long time, and we flew with the AA flowbacks in our Captain seats over here too. I agree with Maverick though, pretty much none of us want to be stuck in PHL hell and we pray to not get that. I don't give a crap what airplane I get, but whatever. It is what it is after the merger. I'll suck it up if thats what I get. Beats being stuck at Eaglevoy any longer.
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