Skubajet

Able,

Sorry to hear it's taking so long to hear back. Back when I interviewed LUS, I didn't hear back for almost 2 months. Stay patient. Don't listen to FullofLuv - he doesn't even work for AA and he makes himself feel better by talking negatively about other companies. Worst part is the wait though. Take the comments on the board with a grain of salt. I've been here over 2 years and enjoy the job and coming to work here. Best of luck and hope you hear back soon!

full of luv

Yes Skuba, I am not an AA pilot, but I was once had a CJO many moons ago from AA. I have many friends (literally over a dozen) at AA and would like to see AA mgmt get it together and quit treating their employees as major costs centers.
As I mentioned, last year they had guys waiting in a pool for nearly a year without any communication, good or bad. People have lives and commitments so a little info can go a long way.
I had high hopes for them when the merger went through, but with a CEO who says employees have little impact on whether AA makes a profit, my friends say they still don't feel especially valued by AA.

I am glad you like AA and coming to work, and for the most part, my friends do as well, but there is always room for mgmt improvement.... at any company! Best of luck to you and Able.

450knotOffice

Wow, Mav. I was there long before you, and lived through the whole mess brought on by 9/11. The game changed. It is what it is.

Nobody cares that you feel like you somehow got short changed by the whole mess; and you need to check in with reality and realize that regardless of which side of the company or which jet you initially start out in, in the long run you've managed to get a job flying for the largest airline in the world - one with massive upcoming retirements, advancement, and potential upgrades to captain in less than ten years. You are escaping the uncertain turmoil of the Regional Airline sector for a Legacy airline that will likely still be around when you retire. One that pays 16% into your 401(k). One that has new captains who spent twenty years in the right seat at AA waiting for their chance to finally upgrade. Most of those - pretty much all of them - are great people to fly with. They do not carry the negative attitude that maybe they earned the right to express. What some of them HAVE told me is that there are quite of few of us ex-Eagle guys who carry around a really negative attitude, and it gets old.

I agree, and it's embarrassing to me that a bunch guys like you who never had to interview for this job, but rather had it handed to them on a silver platter, have the audacity to come in here with a bad attitude. Get over it and yourself. Cry me a damn river. Almost all of us before have had to commute on Reserve for a year or more before finally getting based near home. It is what it is.

As I said, I was AE. I was there a lot longer than you. I feel privileged and lucky to fly for AA. I fly with awesome guys with mostly great attitudes. I love this job, for better and for worse. It's a heck of a lot better than Eagle ever was.

(Damn, I hope you're not another one of us to bring a crappy self entitled attitude into the cockpit. You make us all look bad by doing so)

jcountry

Just wait-

Mav will be demanding 16 years AA seniority now.

RyanP

Well, this part is complete BS.

Working for AMR for 16 years isn't enough of an interview? Flying AA passengers, training in the same building, getting paid from the same place, using the same IT systems, doing the same job.. it was basically the same company just with a much smaller pay check. Give me a break.

There is no silver platter for us at Eagle after all we have been through with this company, that is for sure. All of us flowing here at Eagle have paid our dues to this company for a long time, and we flew with the AA flowbacks in our Captain seats over here too. I agree with Maverick though, pretty much none of us want to be stuck in PHL hell and we pray to not get that. I don't give a crap what airplane I get, but whatever. It is what it is after the merger. I'll suck it up if thats what I get. Beats being stuck at Eaglevoy any longer.

Maverick

Nope. You guys are taking this too seriously. We have just been told we were going to only go to Legacy AA bases unless we wanted a US one. Some guys do. It's great that it's an option. Less overall commuters down the road once fences come down. As far as entitled, I'd gladly compare resumes, especially against some 25yr old intern or fleet managers son. Biggest reason for not wanting 190 is unlike the 737 or Airbus I'm stuck in a base I never wanted. At least having the option of getting to bid Miami and maybe holding it before being done with IOE

as far as never interviewing. My medical was the same as mainline. Sim ride was in the 707. Same paperwork. Same question in the interview. And lots of us flew with flow backs who we liked and were great pilots but we also flew with ones who we wondered how they kept the shinny side up

450knotOffice

I an overall sense, your statement sounds like entitlement. Yes, we all went through the years of bull over there, but most of us have brought a "happy to be here" attitude to AA. The culture here is night and day different, and we are generally happy to finally work for the better side of the corporation. However, some of us who've come over have brought their bitter, angry self-entitled "I've worked for this company for (fill in the blank years), and I deserve (blank)" attitudes into the cockpit, and it grates on the captains who these bitter souls have to fly with. And they remember it. And the next time an ex-Eagle pilot shows up in their cockpit, they think "uh oh, I wonder what I'm in for THIS time."

Leave the bitterness behind. Bring a good attitude into the cockpit. Be happy that you are moving on. Regardless of your years at Eagle, you are a newhire here. You and every other newhire alongside you get the base and equipment that you get. Almost everyone that's been hired or flowed into AA has been assigned a base they didn't live in or near. They've made due. They've commuted, lived in a crashpad, etc., until their seniority allowed them to move on. You'll get your base of choice soon enough. In the meantime, enjoy the moment you're in. The crews are generally awesome here, and really make a trip a lot of fun.

RyanP

I will be happy to be there. I just don't agree with the Eagle pilots getting handed the job on a silver platter part. That is what annoys me when people say things like that. Pretty much all of the current Eagle CA's have paid their dues to have this AA flow deal compared to OTS hires. We accepted flowbacks taking Eagle CA seats, downgrading our own pilots, keeping us in the right seat longer while AA pilots were in our CA seats in exchange for this flow we have now etc etc..

People tend to forget that flowback part and say we are just entitled brats. Eagle pilots paid for it, this wasn't a freebie deal for many Eagle pilots like PSA pilots are getting now. Myself and many others here have flown many flights with an AA flowback pilot in the left seat, which directly harmed our career and income.

I am very happy to have this opportunity now, will take whatever I get and can't wait to be there but it came at a cost to Eagle pilots. It definitely was not free.

450knotOffice

Yea, that was a long time ago, and was part of the deal, remember?

Anyway, let it go. Let it gooooo.

RyanP

I know it was part of the deal. I'm good. lol. I'm not the one demanding bases or equipment, I'll take what I can get.

That is really what I was getting at anyway. That is was a "deal"(with 2 sides to it).

Just a reminder of the costs associated with our current flow. Some of these people on the forum, typically the Usair people from what I have seen like to make comments about how the Eagle flows don't deserve this flow and disagree with it since they have OTS or military friends looking to get hired. Obviously they never had AA flowbacks occupying their CA seats so they don't "get it". Gives one a different perspective on things when you did.