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Old 07-30-2016, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by weekendflyer View Post
Is american hiring off the street or only military? Are they taking wholly owned guys outside the flow?


Here are the numbers as of June 2016..

Flow- 185
OTS Military- 73
OTS Civilian- 25
Recalls - 16 in June (not sure how many for the year, I would say around 80-100)

~9% are civilian off-the-street new hires.
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Old 07-30-2016, 06:10 PM
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$5639 a month for newhire pay?
Hotel room included.
Not sure about per diem.
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Old 07-31-2016, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho View Post
Listening to the CLT/PHL FO's Airbus they are in way worse shape then the 190's.
Yep-

But no new hires, ever. I am sure flights are cancelling.
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Old 07-31-2016, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback View Post
$5639 a month for newhire pay?
Hotel room included.
Not sure about per diem.
Thanks for the info much appreciated!

Is health insurance pretty good in your opinion?
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Old 07-31-2016, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Xavier3251 View Post
Thanks for the info much appreciated!

Is health insurance pretty good in your opinion?
Health insurance isn't great. It's not bad but not good. If you are military keep TRICARE reserve if you can.
For an example your dental insurance doesn't include bi-annual or annual teeth cleanings. It's going to cost you $60. Use to be all preventive teeth cleanings were included.
Health insurance premium wise is better at United but I wouldn't let that stop you from coming to AA. Most insurance policies across all the airlines are deteriorating to just mediocre.
On the good side the 16% 401k contribution is really good! You don't have to put up one penny if you choose to and still get 16%.
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Old 07-31-2016, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGAANG View Post
Health insurance isn't great. It's not bad but not good. If you are military keep TRICARE reserve if you can.
For an example your dental insurance doesn't include bi-annual or annual teeth cleanings. It's going to cost you $60. Use to be all preventive teeth cleanings were included.
Health insurance premium wise is better at United but I wouldn't let that stop you from coming to AA. Most insurance policies across all the airlines are deteriorating to just mediocre.
On the good side the 16% 401k contribution is really good! You don't have to put up one penny if you choose to and still get 16%.
Thanks for the info!
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Old 07-31-2016, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Flying101 View Post
Here are the numbers as of June 2016..

Flow- 185
OTS Military- 73
OTS Civilian- 25
Recalls - 16 in June (not sure how many for the year, I would say around 80-100)

~9% are civilian off-the-street new hires.

26% of all the new hires were military. It had been closer to 37-40% (+/-).

Post recallee period, which is expected to end in Sept., we'll see what the early 2017 percentages are.
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Old 07-31-2016, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jcountry View Post
Yep-

But no new hires, ever. I am sure flights are cancelling.
I've flown everyday on reserve in DCA. Broke guarantee last 2 months.
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Old 07-31-2016, 02:48 PM
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How many recalls have accepted versus how many actually show up to class? Curious how many say yes and dont show up
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Old 07-31-2016, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jcountry View Post
Yep-

But no new hires, ever. I am sure flights are cancelling.
Yeah, seems like they need to hiring a lot more than 600 a year. I guess they are counting on PBS efficiencies to fix this. Also, under the new reserve rules in the JCBA they will be able to utilize Long Call Reserves more. Starting in Oct (maybe Sept?) you have to check and see if you have a trip after you block in from a sequence, and between 1500 and 1600 HBT. That trip can start 12 hours later. Used to be that you had 12 hours of rest and only then could be assigned a trip, and required 12 hours notice for that, so gaurentee 24 hours off after a sequence...
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