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Old 05-31-2014 | 07:53 PM
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Assuming one was lucky enough to be hired by American/US....My limited knowledge tells me the fastest way to move up the seniority (in type) would be to fly the E190. True?
Also, upon completion of training if someone is assigned a A320, how long is he/she locked in that jet?

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Old 06-01-2014 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by NoDeskJob
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Assuming one was lucky enough to be hired by American/US....My limited knowledge tells me the fastest way to move up the seniority (in type) would be to fly the E190. True?
Also, upon completion of training if someone is assigned a A320, how long is he/she locked in that jet?

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You are correct. You'll hold a line within a few months on the 190 which in turn will allow you to make more money and have a better schedule. Seat lock for a new hire on all fleet types is 1 year.
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Old 06-01-2014 | 06:04 AM
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How would one make more money?

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You are correct. You'll hold a line within a few months on the 190 which in turn will allow you to make more money and have a better schedule. Seat lock for a new hire on all fleet types is 1 year.
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Old 06-01-2014 | 06:13 AM
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A line holder will credit more hours (flight & per diem), in most cases, than one sitting straight reserve making guarantee only.
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Old 06-01-2014 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bassslayer
You are correct. You'll hold a line within a few months on the 190 which in turn will allow you to make more money and have a better schedule. Seat lock for a new hire on all fleet types is 1 year.
The reason for the increased QOL / fast movement is BC most everyone bids off the 190 at the 1 year point due to the low 190 2nd yr payrates.

Its mind blowing how many folks I've talked to that hesitate to apply to US Airways because of the 190 payrates. The company can't force someone to stay on the 190 past the 1 year mark. Even if there is a training delay into the new aircraft, you get the 2nd year new aircraft rate once the award comes out. After the 1 year seatlock is up, just bid off the 190 onto an A320 or 767 and you will make "big 3" industry standard rates (by 2016).
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Old 06-01-2014 | 12:18 PM
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Not all new hires go to the 190. The oldest in the class has first choice of vacancies and then down the list. The last bid had unbid openings for F/O on the 767. The factor of where you live and how are you going to get to work is the next consideration. CLT has over 500 positions on the Airbus and a reasonable cost of living. PHL and DCA are smaller and more expensive. Good luck.
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Old 06-01-2014 | 02:34 PM
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Took me 7 months to hold a secondary on the 190. Which is still pretty much uncommutable from the west coast. There really is zero variety of pairings on the 190, but if you like, lga, bos, and dca overnights, you'll love the plane.
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Uncommutable from the West Coast... <-----insert crocodile tears here, just saying
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Old 06-01-2014 | 03:38 PM
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PHL has the fastest movement. CLT is by far the most senior. If you live there, within 90 minutes of the airport, or are going to move there, it's a great base. For everyone else, personally, I feel PHL offers the best mix of commutability combined with fast movement, even on the Airbus side.

Short call reserve is a commuters nightmare. You must be in base. Long call reserve is a decent alternative, you get a now 12 hour call-out (assuming that is in effect now?) so if you live on the east coast it means you are sitting reserve at home. You'll work more, but you'll get an extra day or two at home every week most likely. Sometimes more.
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Old 06-02-2014 | 02:57 AM
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Indoc to PHL AB long call was 6 mos for me. 12 hr call out...18+ hrs 90% of the time means you can be at home on reserve from most cities....
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