APA Protocol Agreement proposal
06-21-2014, 03:45 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
is successful in nullifying the MOU or Parker seeks its nullification as a response to USAPA's path of choice.
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06-21-2014, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FreighterGuyNow
Please post the relevant language that USAPA is seeking to nullify the MOU rather than enforce the MBond legislation.
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In the interim, USAPA is seeking injunctive relief until its demands are ruled on, are they not ?
They want to stop (nullify) the ENTIRE process because they want to do SLI arbitration now, while they are still relevant and in control of the West. I do accept this is falling on deaf ears as it's more then obvious USAPA has successfully filled a lot of gullible minds with emotion-filled sap.
06-21-2014, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
USAPA is playing with the concepts of "fact" and "interpretation". The FACT is the MOU REQUIRES completion of JCBA first and then SLI. USAPA is seeking to force seniority integration immediately in reverse order using its INTERPRETATION that McCaskill-Bond requires almost immediate arbitration of SLI issues now while they are A. still relevant and B. while they have the power to muzzle the West and as a result of a strategy they orchestrated to allow exactly this at exactly this early stage in SLI and pre-JCBA. Turning the timeline of the very foundation of the MOU on its head by unilaterally dissolving its fundamental path IS a nullification of its provisions, Q.E.D.
In the interim, USAPA is seeking injunctive relief until its demands are ruled on, are they not ?
They want to stop (nullify) the ENTIRE process because they want to do SLI arbitration now, while they are still relevant and in control of the West. I do accept this is falling on deaf ears as it's more then obvious USAPA has successfully filled a lot of gullible minds with emotion-filled sap.
In the interim, USAPA is seeking injunctive relief until its demands are ruled on, are they not ?
They want to stop (nullify) the ENTIRE process because they want to do SLI arbitration now, while they are still relevant and in control of the West. I do accept this is falling on deaf ears as it's more then obvious USAPA has successfully filled a lot of gullible minds with emotion-filled sap.
06-21-2014, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
Everyone has a finger to point. No need to worry... The courts will sort it out.
We both know they won't.
USAPA never negotiates (although they're masters of creating that illusion), they dictate and they've alienated almost everyone they've ever had contact with including other labor groups, arbitrators, airline executives, judges and even some of their own who haven't fallen down your rabbit hole. It sounds as though you think the possibility of USAPA being handed its hat is out of the question. Confidence is a good thing in moderation.
Of course the day may come when you ask yourself, "why, oh why, didn't I take the red pill ?".
06-21-2014, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73
^^^ that pretty much sums it up.
Did this come from your DCA reps? Maybe they know more than he does.
"One speed bump was that new AAL management invited a group of former America West to the first protocol meeting. USAPA represents all pilots at USAir. USAPA refused to attend any meeting that included parties that had no legal standing. "
06-21-2014, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
USAPA is playing with the concepts of "fact" and "interpretation". The FACT is the MOU REQUIRES completion of JCBA first and then SLI. USAPA is seeking to force seniority integration immediately in reverse order using its INTERPRETATION that McCaskill-Bond requires almost immediate arbitration of SLI issues now while they are A. still relevant and B. while they have the power to muzzle the West and as a result of a strategy they orchestrated to allow exactly this at exactly this early stage in SLI and pre-JCBA. Turning the timeline of the very foundation of the MOU on its head by unilaterally dissolving its fundamental path IS a nullification of its provisions, Q.E.D.
In the interim, USAPA is seeking injunctive relief until its demands are ruled on, are they not ?
They want to stop (nullify) the ENTIRE process because they want to do SLI arbitration now, while they are still relevant and in control of the West. I do accept this is falling on deaf ears as it's more then obvious USAPA has successfully filled a lot of gullible minds with emotion-filled sap.
In the interim, USAPA is seeking injunctive relief until its demands are ruled on, are they not ?
They want to stop (nullify) the ENTIRE process because they want to do SLI arbitration now, while they are still relevant and in control of the West. I do accept this is falling on deaf ears as it's more then obvious USAPA has successfully filled a lot of gullible minds with emotion-filled sap.
06-21-2014, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73
No I would not be concerned because this thing is headed for arbitration no matter how APA or USAPA slants it.
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