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Old 09-12-2014 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Cactusone
The NB process will be relative seniority not slotting. If you're 50 percentile you should be close to that after the SLI.
So, 50% on a Us Airways/ America West list using the Nicolau award is an America West ( and founding member of the group suing ) with a hire date around 8/ 2000.

You feel 6400 legacy American pilots should be junior to America West pilot hired in late 2000 ?
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Old 09-12-2014 | 11:04 AM
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What was the most junior guy from the east that wasn't on furlough slotted next to on the west list? As in the respective DOH's. I keep hearing about the new hire on the west being above the east furloughs but I'm curious about how the junior east guy still on property made out under the nic.
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Old 09-12-2014 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FreighterGuyNow
So, 50% on a Us Airways/ America West list using the Nicolau award is an America West ( and founding member of the group suing ) with a hire date around 8/ 2000.

You feel 6400 legacy American pilots should be junior to America West pilot hired in late 2000 ?
Way to try to get the AA pilots to turn on the West pilots after USAPA is toast. Don't worry, every merger turns on its own facts. AA dominates wide body flying 4 to 1, USAir locks the bottom up with 100% of the small narrow bodies, and the career expectations of AWA v. USAir are nowhere near the same as USAir v. AA. Don't worry FGN, the legacy AA pilots will do just fine without your pot stirring.
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Old 09-12-2014 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Cactusone
The NB process will be relative seniority not slotting. If you're 50 percentile you should be close to that after the SLI. It shouldn't matter if you are CA or FO. Now when there is a system realignment AA and West FO's will bid accordingly and some east CA will be doing walk arounds again. Prepare.
I just love these definitive statements! I didn't realize that the arbitration board had been picked and you were on it.

Let me get this straight. You think the #1 west guy should be placed by the #1 AA guy?

Any AA guy care to comment? :-)
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Old 09-12-2014 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by flyinawa
Way to try to get the AA pilots to turn on the West pilots after USAPA is toast. Don't worry, every merger turns on its own facts. AA dominates wide body flying 4 to 1, USAir locks the bottom up with 100% of the small narrow bodies, and the career expectations of AWA v. USAir are nowhere near the same as USAir v. AA. Don't worry FGN, the legacy AA pilots will do just fine without your pot stirring.

I think Cactusone did a better job of that.
How many wide bodies are attached to the west list?
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Old 09-12-2014 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
Thank you for that, sincerely.
I appreciate that and bodes well for a fresh start.
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Old 09-12-2014 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
What was the most junior guy from the east that wasn't on furlough slotted next to on the west list? As in the respective DOH's. I keep hearing about the new hire on the west being above the east furloughs but I'm curious about how the junior east guy still on property made out under the nic.
Off the top of my head it was 17 years vs 2 months, at the time the merger was announced.
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Old 09-12-2014 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
I just love these definitive statements! I didn't realize that the arbitration board had been picked and you were on it. Let me get this straight. You think the #1 west guy should be placed by the #1 AA guy? Any AA guy care to comment? :-)
I don't know about the AA guys, but after reading their 2 statements, I feel like getting a new tie!
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Old 09-12-2014 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
I think Cactusone did a better job of that.
How many wide bodies are attached to the west list?
Gosh Relay, I'm not really sure. How many wide bodies have been acquired at USAir since we merged? I think it's at least that many...all IOUs of course.
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Old 09-12-2014 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by flyinawa
Gosh Relay, I'm not really sure. How many wide bodies have been acquired at USAir since we merged? I think it's at least that many...all IOUs of course.

Ever heard of the term nullity? I think it applies to youR IOUs; even so they were for 757's and e190s.

I think we got 10 A330 s post merger. You think that if you deserve credit for them, you deserve credit for all?

One of those pitfalls I mentioned earlier.
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