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#602
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Found this link on another site. It's a Scab list that lists the scabs from various strikes. There are quite a few America West pilots on it...
http://download.cabledrum.net/wikile...-list-2004.pdf
This clearly shows the names of the America West Scabs. It's PDF and easily searchable. If you search (Ctrl+F) for AFAP, it will show all the pilots that scabbed the Australian carriers in 1989. All America West pilots are notated in the right column. This will be a nice addition to the company Ipad...
I wonder if this will be at the LAX domicile meeting when the APA votes in the PHX applications...
http://download.cabledrum.net/wikile...-list-2004.pdf
This clearly shows the names of the America West Scabs. It's PDF and easily searchable. If you search (Ctrl+F) for AFAP, it will show all the pilots that scabbed the Australian carriers in 1989. All America West pilots are notated in the right column. This will be a nice addition to the company Ipad...
I wonder if this will be at the LAX domicile meeting when the APA votes in the PHX applications...
#603
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He thinks I am a so-called third lister. Some time ago I argued that Third listers should be senior to many of the West pilots that are relatively junior to them... We have third listers that are on widebodies, captains on the 190, and most of them have lines on group II.... but many West pilots are obviously worse off, unable to hold a line on group II, and no wide body. The West was all about "relative position" so it seems consistent that the West should place the so-called third listers in a relative position---there is no third list anyway. Fair is fair. 
It may have been EagleFly that first accused me of being a third lister. Frankly, ad hominem arguments are evidence of losing, especially when they are basically a retreat from the real facts that matter.... but if he wants to go DOH with me that is fine.
"Status Quo". Marty needs to tell his disciples what that means and why it matters.

It may have been EagleFly that first accused me of being a third lister. Frankly, ad hominem arguments are evidence of losing, especially when they are basically a retreat from the real facts that matter.... but if he wants to go DOH with me that is fine.

"Status Quo". Marty needs to tell his disciples what that means and why it matters.
#606
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Joined: Nov 2008
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From: A330
He thinks I am a so-called third lister. Some time ago I argued that Third listers should be senior to many of the West pilots that are relatively junior to them... We have third listers that are on widebodies, captains on the 190, and most of them have lines on group II.... but many West pilots are obviously worse off, unable to hold a line on group II, and no wide body. The West was all about "relative position" so it seems consistent that the West should place the so-called third listers in a relative position---there is no third list anyway. Fair is fair. 
It may have been EagleFly that first accused me of being a third lister. Frankly, ad hominem arguments are evidence of losing, especially when they are basically a retreat from the real facts that matter.... but if he wants to go DOH with me that is fine.
"Status Quo". Marty needs to tell his disciples what that means and why it matters.

It may have been EagleFly that first accused me of being a third lister. Frankly, ad hominem arguments are evidence of losing, especially when they are basically a retreat from the real facts that matter.... but if he wants to go DOH with me that is fine.

"Status Quo". Marty needs to tell his disciples what that means and why it matters.
Well how bright could a jetmonkey be? You might have to cut her some slack.
#607
Ah, so you're not a third lister (yes there is still such), well my bad on that one. Excuse me RU57? didn't know you had to be a smarty pants on this board and know everyone's status.
Yes, relative is relative. However arbitrators don't have to use it entirely for a SLI.. Hope you guys are smart enough to know that. Oh, and guess what... West guys are now holding lines in group II aircraft. How bout that, huh?
Yes, relative is relative. However arbitrators don't have to use it entirely for a SLI.. Hope you guys are smart enough to know that. Oh, and guess what... West guys are now holding lines in group II aircraft. How bout that, huh?
#608
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Ah, so you're not a third lister (yes there is still such), well my bad on that one. Excuse me RU57? didn't know you had to be a smarty pants on this board and know everyone's status.
Yes, relative is relative. However arbitrators don't have to use it entirely for a SLI.. Hope you guys are smart enough to know that. Oh, and guess what... West guys are now holding lines in group II aircraft. How bout that, huh?
Yes, relative is relative. However arbitrators don't have to use it entirely for a SLI.. Hope you guys are smart enough to know that. Oh, and guess what... West guys are now holding lines in group II aircraft. How bout that, huh?

#609
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Joined: Nov 2011
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From: A320 Capt
Ah, so you're not a third lister (yes there is still such), well my bad on that one. Excuse me RU57? didn't know you had to be a smarty pants on this board and know everyone's status.
Yes, relative is relative. However arbitrators don't have to use it entirely for a SLI.. Hope you guys are smart enough to know that. Oh, and guess what... West guys are now holding lines in group II aircraft. How bout that, huh?
Yes, relative is relative. However arbitrators don't have to use it entirely for a SLI.. Hope you guys are smart enough to know that. Oh, and guess what... West guys are now holding lines in group II aircraft. How bout that, huh?

You guys have line holders on group I I A/C? Huh, I figured they kept you all on reserve.
#610
Line Holder
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 34
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From: Low
Found this link on another site. It's a Scab list that lists the scabs from various strikes. There are quite a few America West pilots on it...
http://download.cabledrum.net/wikile...-list-2004.pdf
This clearly shows the names of the America West Scabs. It's PDF and easily searchable. If you search (Ctrl+F) for AFAP, it will show all the pilots that scabbed the Australian carriers in 1989. All America West pilots are notated in the right column. This will be a nice addition to the company Ipad...
I wonder if this will be at the LAX domicile meeting when the APA votes in the PHX applications...
http://download.cabledrum.net/wikile...-list-2004.pdf
This clearly shows the names of the America West Scabs. It's PDF and easily searchable. If you search (Ctrl+F) for AFAP, it will show all the pilots that scabbed the Australian carriers in 1989. All America West pilots are notated in the right column. This will be a nice addition to the company Ipad...
I wonder if this will be at the LAX domicile meeting when the APA votes in the PHX applications...
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