Total compensation below United and Delta
02-05-2016, 11:58 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by Jetwash
You guys are hilarious....I think most third listers are just waiting for you guys to die off or kill each other post SLI.
I personally think there should be an octagon in DFW and we let guys have a death match. That way our seniority goes up and the most insane passionate ones get thinned out.
Don't get me wrong, we understand the atrocities that were committed...but can we not move along. We're fighting the wrong people.
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I personally think there should be an octagon in DFW and we let guys have a death match. That way our seniority goes up and the most insane passionate ones get thinned out.
Don't get me wrong, we understand the atrocities that were committed...but can we not move along. We're fighting the wrong people.
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We have been watching team Tempe profit from it for quite a while now
02-05-2016, 02:03 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
...but the only people we have a chance of beating at this point.
Ourselves.
Ourselves.
02-05-2016, 02:39 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by ATR35
We aren't in a good position thanks to the 65% who voted yes. Basically the company got everything they wanted minus scope... It's not hard to predict what the next round of contract talks is going to entail. We actually held the line on scope it was the one thing everyone could agree on last time- I hope 2020 is no different.
02-06-2016, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ATR35
We aren't in a good position thanks to the 65% who voted yes. Basically the company got everything they wanted minus scope... It's not hard to predict what the next round of contract talks is going to entail. We actually held the line on scope it was the one thing everyone could agree on last time- I hope 2020 is no different.
02-06-2016, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Route66
We are NOT in a good position (and never will be from this point forward) because of the "go it alone" philosophy of the three LAA labor groups trying to "end run" our side of labor by making agreements that benefited only themselves and LOCKED US IN to what we have now. The lack of profit sharing and the "cost neutral" arbitration for the JCBA NOT TO MENTION the open ended language of Company implementation of certain sections of the contract doomed us to what we have now....pure and simple.
02-08-2016, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Cactusone
Just a scared third lister lashing out. The sky is falling for them and some can't cope.
02-08-2016, 11:43 AM
#38
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Originally Posted by Route66
We are NOT in a good position (and never will be from this point forward) because of the "go it alone" philosophy of the three LAA labor groups trying to "end run" our side of labor by making agreements that benefited only themselves and LOCKED US IN to what we have now. The lack of profit sharing and the "cost neutral" arbitration for the JCBA NOT TO MENTION the open ended language of Company implementation of certain sections of the contract doomed us to what we have now....pure and simple.
Lastly, no whining if you voted yes. Nothing personal but you wanted it.. You got it. That includes no implementation schedule.
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02-09-2016, 04:34 PM
#39
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Originally Posted by A321
With this shove-down-the-throat JCBA and MOU with hands tied in bk, we are now locked into the lowest compensation of the 3 legacy carriers until 2019. Giving away profit sharing was one of the biggest mistakes this pilot group could have ever committed.
Let us not make the same mistakes again.
Pay attention to the psychology used against this pilot group.
Do not allow yourself to be played, and let us not be played against each other, as this management group did with AW/US.
Let us not make the same mistakes again.
Pay attention to the psychology used against this pilot group.
Do not allow yourself to be played, and let us not be played against each other, as this management group did with AW/US.
02-09-2016, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GPullR
This chart is before uniteds 13% pay increase.
As an added bonus we managed to give away our work rules and basically have no LTD plan, hotel language, etc. Yes voters couldn't look past the hourly rates.
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