Total compensation below United and Delta
02-14-2016, 11:38 AM
#51
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Originally Posted by LuckyNow
Understood, and fully endorsed. I assumed that the profit sharing was based on your base salary and hours flown and not necessarily a hard percentage of whatever you pulled down with extra time and soft pay you took advantage of. Bravo if there are guys getting significantly more than the quoted number. I'm always all for pilots getting paid more.
02-14-2016, 12:54 PM
#52
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Originally Posted by EskimoJoe
Have 1/3rd of your career robbed from you and see how you feel. Believe me, no West pilot gives a flying f$&@ how anyone else feels about them either.
FWIW, I've had many very good interactions with West guys, and some very bad ones. Clearly, some of them are just arseholes, regardless of what happened to their careers.
02-14-2016, 01:29 PM
#53
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Originally Posted by EskimoJoe
Have 1/3rd of your career robbed from you and see how you feel. Believe me, no West pilot gives a flying f$&@ how anyone else feels about them either.
Robbed
02-14-2016, 04:58 PM
#54
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Originally Posted by UALinIAH
Nope it's all inclusive. I think it would start opening too many can of worms if we went by "hours flown". What about reserves flying once a month? What if you have a transition course and were away from the line for 6 weeks with no "hours flown". Easiest way was just say the PS pool this year is X based on the contract and the company SEC filings. Total pilot compensation was Y. Divide them out and say "Every pilot gets Z% of the pay". This year for UAL is was just over 13%. DAL did significantly better financially and I think I read they got around 21%?
02-14-2016, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by EskimoJoe
Have 1/3rd of your career robbed from you and see how you feel. Believe me, no West pilot gives a flying f$&@ how anyone else feels about them either.
02-14-2016, 08:21 PM
#57
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Yes, it was 21%. Not all inclusive. It does not include things like prior PS, monthly goal awards, money from grievances, company match, per diem, stuff like that.
I averaged about 90ish hours a month of credit at 777 FO pay.
02-14-2016, 11:04 PM
#58
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Originally Posted by EskimoJoe
Have 1/3rd of your career robbed from you and see how you feel. Believe me, no West pilot gives a flying f$&@ how anyone else feels about them either.
Face it, Am West was a second to third tier carrier. Back in 2004-2005 they called me and sent me a letter asking me to update my application because I hadn't updated since 1999-2000. You don't see any of the legacy carrier doing that do you.
You (idiots) have the golden ticket and now are acting like spoiled brats.
02-14-2016, 11:31 PM
#59
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
To make this simpler- it was 21% of your flight pay only for the year. This includes premium pay, and some guys ended up above 400,000.
I averaged about 90ish hours a month of credit at 777 FO pay.
I averaged about 90ish hours a month of credit at 777 FO pay.
02-15-2016, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Thedude
Faining hurt doesn't help your cause.
Face it, Am West was a second to third tier carrier. Back in 2004-2005 they called me and sent me a letter asking me to update my application because I hadn't updated since 1999-2000. You don't see any of the legacy carrier doing that do you.
You (idiots) have the golden ticket and now are acting like spoiled brats.
Face it, Am West was a second to third tier carrier. Back in 2004-2005 they called me and sent me a letter asking me to update my application because I hadn't updated since 1999-2000. You don't see any of the legacy carrier doing that do you.
You (idiots) have the golden ticket and now are acting like spoiled brats.
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