Atlas / Southern
03-26-2020, 08:19 AM
#791
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Always Training
Posts: 20
Originally Posted by Gloriousprofits
Don’t do it! It’s a severely bad situation there, and how the feds haven’t intervened yet is beyond me. I know it’s terrible losing a job but going to Atlas will be adding insult to injury.
03-26-2020, 09:10 AM
#792
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: B767
Posts: 1,901
Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
You shouldn't need a rec right now... They're desperate for pilots.
03-26-2020, 10:22 AM
#793
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Joined APC: May 2014
Position: B-767
Posts: 158
Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker
In your 8 years at Atlas, how many times did you apply to Home Depot? I really don’t get what makes/made some of you guys so miserable.
03-26-2020, 11:40 AM
#794
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Joined APC: Aug 2013
Posts: 453
Originally Posted by Gloriousprofits
I appreciate the thoughts of empathy however coming to work at Atlas is honestly probably worse than going to work at Home Depot. It truly has become the worst job in the industry. I feel qualified to say this during these hard times. My airline disappeared after 9/11, ‘was on the street, ‘was furloughed after 2008, back on the street and then 8 years at Atlas.
Don’t do it! It’s a severely bad situation there, and how the feds haven’t intervened yet is beyond me. I know it’s terrible losing a job but going to Atlas will be adding insult to injury.
Don’t do it! It’s a severely bad situation there, and how the feds haven’t intervened yet is beyond me. I know it’s terrible losing a job but going to Atlas will be adding insult to injury.
Look there's better places than Atlas but the only ones better that are hiring now are UPS and FedEx. For the 747 it's 13 days off if you live in base 55k first year. 100k second year same number of days off. We're not getting a contract soon so I'm having to accept that I'm not getting any better any time soon. I wish we could strike and get a contract but we can't we're stuck with what we have. The man won but it's better than working at HD for 35k and being micromanged the entire time and also working 5 days a week.
03-26-2020, 12:44 PM
#795
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Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 54
I didn’t apply to Home Depot however I can argue I would have had much better mental health working there.
I did however apply to other airlines after I realized I had been consistently lied to, paid half of my peers, given zero schedule flexibility, and had lost all hope of improvement. It’s a really toxic and frankly dangerous environment that I wish upon no one. We shouted, stomped and yelled for two years that they were going crash one and I won’t be surprised when it happens again. And WHERE in the he** are the regulators and why are they not doing their job? A gross failure on behalf of Management and the FAA.
You won’t build much time, you certainly won’t get 1,000 TPIC anytime soon, and you will be gone a lot. it can be a real trap getting in to this underworld.
I did however apply to other airlines after I realized I had been consistently lied to, paid half of my peers, given zero schedule flexibility, and had lost all hope of improvement. It’s a really toxic and frankly dangerous environment that I wish upon no one. We shouted, stomped and yelled for two years that they were going crash one and I won’t be surprised when it happens again. And WHERE in the he** are the regulators and why are they not doing their job? A gross failure on behalf of Management and the FAA.
You won’t build much time, you certainly won’t get 1,000 TPIC anytime soon, and you will be gone a lot. it can be a real trap getting in to this underworld.
03-26-2020, 01:06 PM
#796
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Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 465
Originally Posted by Gloriousprofits
I didn’t apply to Home Depot however I can argue I would have had much better mental health working there.
I did however apply to other airlines after I realized I had been consistently lied to, paid half of my peers, given zero schedule flexibility, and had lost all hope of improvement. It’s a really toxic and frankly dangerous environment that I wish upon no one. We shouted, stomped and yelled for two years that they were going crash one and I won’t be surprised when it happens again. And WHERE in the he** are the regulators and why are they not doing their job? A gross failure on behalf of Management and the FAA.
You won’t build much time, you certainly won’t get 1,000 TPIC anytime soon, and you will be gone a lot. it can be a real trap getting in to this underworld.
I did however apply to other airlines after I realized I had been consistently lied to, paid half of my peers, given zero schedule flexibility, and had lost all hope of improvement. It’s a really toxic and frankly dangerous environment that I wish upon no one. We shouted, stomped and yelled for two years that they were going crash one and I won’t be surprised when it happens again. And WHERE in the he** are the regulators and why are they not doing their job? A gross failure on behalf of Management and the FAA.
You won’t build much time, you certainly won’t get 1,000 TPIC anytime soon, and you will be gone a lot. it can be a real trap getting in to this underworld.
03-26-2020, 02:02 PM
#797
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 666
Hey Gloriousprofits, you know that you’d also help the “attrition” fight if you left, right? I don’t mean to another airline. By all means, if you’re that miserable here, please leave aviation entirely and go work anywhere else.
Guess what: we tried to leverage our position with attrition. We lost. Get over it. There are about to be 1,000 fellow aviators on the streets. If you try to convince any of them that coming to Atlas/Southern is a worse idea than finding a non-aviation job, then I don’t know how you can dare to call yourself a unionist. As professional aviators, we should always have each others’ back.
We have our issues. A lot of them. And we have fought a very long, hard battle. But there’s a new reality that we need to be comfortable with. We gambled the dice with Father Time and we lost.
Guess what: we tried to leverage our position with attrition. We lost. Get over it. There are about to be 1,000 fellow aviators on the streets. If you try to convince any of them that coming to Atlas/Southern is a worse idea than finding a non-aviation job, then I don’t know how you can dare to call yourself a unionist. As professional aviators, we should always have each others’ back.
We have our issues. A lot of them. And we have fought a very long, hard battle. But there’s a new reality that we need to be comfortable with. We gambled the dice with Father Time and we lost.
03-26-2020, 02:42 PM
#798
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Joined APC: Mar 2019
Posts: 54
I left a year ago. Just some pretty deep scars from all the lies. I wish you guys the very best and just trying to shed some light on my reality when I was there. For that matter I held the line as strong as anyone there. Absolutely nothing slid when I was there, so you are welcome for that and I really hope people don’t succumb to resignation but instead keep fighting the battle. I’ll sign off now.
oh and I have been furloughed twice so I can very much empathize.
oh and I have been furloughed twice so I can very much empathize.
03-26-2020, 04:09 PM
#800
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,349
Originally Posted by Gloriousprofits
I left a year ago. Just some pretty deep scars from all the lies. I wish you guys the very best and just trying to shed some light on my reality when I was there. For that matter I held the line as strong as anyone there. Absolutely nothing slid when I was there, so you are welcome for that and I really hope people don’t succumb to resignation but instead keep fighting the battle. I’ll sign off now.
oh and I have been furloughed twice so I can very much empathize.
oh and I have been furloughed twice so I can very much empathize.
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