jrmyl

It has benefited me twice now. I am CVG based and routinely finish out the pairing with a NGO-CVG flight that usually gets in around 12:30am local/05:30(04:30)UTC. Twice that flight has delayed a few hours and gotten me in after 0700UTC for the extended day. Granted, it was only an extra 2 hours, but it didn't cost me anything other than getting home at 5am instead of 1am.

3pointlanding

I have been reading the Atlas comments for a long time. 16 years ago I was a Polaroid and now at purple but I have learned quite a bit from the Atlas posts. Getting back to the the subject good and bad, it sure looks like there has been a lot of good since my days. JD is still in charge and still the snake in the grass with the union, well deserved probably. With so many of my colleagues still at Atlas I hope they have a long and good career. Here at purple a lot of changes are starting to go from rumor to fact and as they say, when purple get a cold, the industry gets pneumonia. Not to anyone surprise a lot of our planes are heading to the desert and there are no more new hire classes for the near future. The flying will be decreased and from what I heard we will be depending on wet leases to pick up the slack, all in the name of money saving. What that will mean for ACMI is any ones guess but buckle up.

Elevation

Thanks for the well wishes. Nobody knows what the future holds.

Atlasvet

[QUOTE=Elevation;3585568]Thanks for the well wishes. Nobody knows what the future holds.[/QUOTE...

....and it has been that way at Atlas for 30 years and likely will never change.

C17B74

That’s good stuff right there. Glad it has been working out for you as well as being able to live in base which has minor impact compared to the commuting folks. Lines have changed over the years, not all bases are created equal and lines have adjusted accordingly. Having been on property for a couple of years and eventually getting into CVG gives you a good perspective having been a commuter on the old timeframe vs the new and living in base. I was HSV for years before it dried up and it was glorious being able to drive to work, but the commute to ORD is definitely a change. Granted, it was still OK being able to hold lines that ended with time to get back on the same day (AM to mid afternoon) before the switchover. Now it’s hit or miss and some lines do work well, but this is just one cog speaking amongst a cast of thousands. Gateway has made it palatable with points (sometimes a lot, many times very little points) and one hop tickets and hotel so no worries, but I can drive to MEM yet I choose my own destiny since I don’t care for the monotonous lack of variety vs the opportunities ORD provides at this time.

*Sometimes a benefit - getting in late or zero dark thirty and getting a decent 5-8hr nap and shower to ride home and spend the rest of the day not too tired and getting things done ain’t bad. Before the change I would get in early afternoon or early evening in a haze, but still in my own bed. Atlas is fluid so you win some and lose some. The key is to win more than you lose and it sounds like jrmyl is winning. Feel like I win quite a bit, but you must use the loopholes/contract benefits with maximum effort.

hu1124

Can someone explain Calculated Rig Time (CRT)? From what I read, you’ll get one hour CRT for every 4.95 CRT. Let’s said you flew 99 hours you’ll get extra 20 hours? And paid is 119?
TIA

HPIC

It’s either CRT(1:4.95, which equates to 4.84 hours pay per 24 hours TAFB) or block plus DH credit(half of scheduled or actual block, whichever is greater), whichever is greater.

Twin Wasp

It’s not just TAFB, it also includes in base reserve. That’s why it’s not just called a trip rig.

stevecv

I’ve been reading the 74 has a very high variance to its schedule, however, what are the typical overnights? How long are they? Does JFK see different overnights than say MIA?

Additionally, can someone explain a ‘typical’ few days of flying on the 74? Legs, turns, etc?

Watto

Clarify something for me - I've heard some people saying "outbase min guarantee is more like 145 hours because of CRT" or whatever you call it. I understand from the contract it says 130 hours. I also know that your "base" temporarily changes to whatever outbase you get awarded.

So say for example you have an ICN outbase awarded for a 30 day month, is your credit the greater of:
a. 130 hours
b. 4.84 x 30
c. block (if you beat 130 hours !! *kill me*)
d. something else
e. all of the above
??

Or is CRT not applicable for the 32 in 7 rest and other "off" days (if in ICN in this example) and travel days to and fro if applicable? So something more like 4.84 x 25?

The Atlas contract is a minefield... Hope with the elections coming up there's some reps with a law background in there. Or at least can proofread properly.