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Old 04-29-2022, 06:27 PM
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I heard a new contract may be in the offing: 17/13 to 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off & pay; among other things.

These rotation changes would mitigate the loss of traveling on days off & more closely match Kalitta & National. A huge improvement if true.


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The ink isnít dry on the most recent CBA. This seems like a pretty preposterous rumor, even for us.

We are buying K4, though, so maybe the CBA will be amended during that process.
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Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1 View Post
Hi,

I heard a new contract may be in the offing: 17/13 to 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off & pay; among other things.

These rotation changes would mitigate the loss of traveling on days off & more closely match Kalitta & National. A huge improvement if true.


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Maybe when Atlas buys their next airline to amalgamate a contract with instead of negotiating with its pilot group like itís done repeatedly over the previous 20 years.
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Maybe when Atlas buys their next airline to amalgamate a contract with instead of negotiating with its pilot group like itís done repeatedly over the previous 20 years.
That scope language was removedÖ..
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Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1 View Post
Hi,

I heard a new contract may be in the offing: 17/13 to 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off & pay; among other things.

These rotation changes would mitigate the loss of traveling on days off & more closely match Kalitta & National. A huge improvement if true.


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Thats a crazy enough rumor. From the Union President on the crew call a couple days ago. The company has not approached the Union about making any further improvements to the current contract except for the adjustments which became effective 1 Jan. However he said his belief is they still arenít satisfied with the retention rates. Currently we are +18 or something for the year. He said he thinks theyíll probably try to make more adjustments this year. I highly doubt it. I think theyíll give it the year to see how attrition goes. Given Art 33 just dried up though, I donít see as much incentive for people to stick around. So who really knows in the end how this will pan out. Donít hold your breath and you wonít be disappointed. Are you even on property yet or on the line?
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Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1 View Post
Hi,

I heard a new contract may be in the offing: 17/13 to 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off & pay; among other things.

These rotation changes would mitigate the loss of traveling on days off & more closely match Kalitta & National. A huge improvement if true.


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I donít see those changes happening soon. Even though we have to commute on our off days, depending where you live and where you are based you can shrink that time. There quite a bit of areas in our CBA that exceeds K4 and definitely far exceeds Nationals as well.
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Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1 View Post
Hi,

I heard a new contract may be in the offing: 17/13 to 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off & pay; among other things.

These rotation changes would mitigate the loss of traveling on days off & more closely match Kalitta & National. A huge improvement if true.


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akfrtdwg 57 makes a good point. You wouldnít happen to have heard this during initial training if you are on property by any chance?

*Definitely a move in the right direction if nothing is lost in the translation, but Iíll believe it when I see it.
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akfrtdwg 57 makes a good point. You wouldnít happen to have heard this during initial training if you are on property by any chance?

*Definitely a move in the right direction if nothing is lost in the translation, but Iíll believe it when I see it.
ĎThatís the spirit! Believe it when you see it, then you will be pleasantly surprised. Instead of miserable and disappointed when it never happensÖ
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This has to be weekend trolling, right?


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Recruitment and Retention numbers must be down. Letís create false hope rumors to keep people interested in employmentÖ see this every spring at the regionals.
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