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Old 05-30-2015, 08:38 PM
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I took the Test around May 20th (95%) & I got a call from HR while I was flying Friday (the 29th) so it won't be long! Called back when I landed but peeps all leave early on Fridays....GAHHHH!:



Originally Posted by PTS2 View Post
Good evening folks,

This is my first post. I've been following this thread for the better part of a few years and the information is fantastic! I really appreciate all the insight.

On May 15th, I passed the exam with a 90 and am now anxiously hoping for a phone call. For those of you that took the test around that date, have you received a call yet? Thank you in advance!
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Old 05-30-2015, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tothebigblue View Post
Hello I am going to apply to Atlas air and i have a few questions before I do so...not that it will change my mind about applying!


Thank you!
-How senior is PAE?
You won't hold it
-Is a new hire going to 767 or 747
Yes
-What is it like commuting for this job?
Same as your job, except the company buys you a ticket
-Most senior and most junior base.
Doesn't matter - It'll be different by the time you're on property, even if that's this summer
-Likely hood of getting JFK as a base.
Very good. As soon as your seniority allows and there is a vacancy.

protip 1: Bases are way less important than % seniority in base
protip 2: Nothing is spoonfed here. It can drive you insane, but your ability to survive this job (in a practical real-life dropped off in a country who's language you don't speak and you have no visa way; as well as systemic weaknesses from outside factors (worldwide flying with a dynamic environment of 'rules' and lack of support from a financial building on the northside of NYC) requires a survival instinct and an ability to adapt and improvise when things (often as they do here) go pear-shaped.

This IS NOT a job for everybody. Anyone can do the work, don't get me wrong, but think long an hard about what really goes on operating into normal airports 98% of the time, then you get that one flight to a place so far off the grid the 24 hour news cycle hasn't gotten there yet to broadcast.

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Old 05-31-2015, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JerrySpringer View Post
-How senior is PAE?
You won't hold it
-Is a new hire going to 767 or 747
Yes
-What is it like commuting for this job?
Same as your job, except the company buys you a ticket
-Most senior and most junior base.
Doesn't matter - It'll be different by the time you're on property, even if that's this summer
-Likely hood of getting JFK as a base.
Very good. As soon as your seniority allows and there is a vacancy.

protip 1: Bases are way less important than % seniority in base
protip 2: Nothing is spoonfed here. It can drive you insane, but your ability to survive this job (in a practical real-life dropped off in a country who's language you don't speak and you have no visa way; as well as systemic weaknesses from outside factors (worldwide flying with a dynamic environment of 'rules' and lack of support from a financial building on the northside of NYC) requires a survival instinct and an ability to adapt and improvise when things (often as they do here) go pear-shaped.

This IS NOT a job for everybody. Anyone can do the work, don't get me wrong, but think long an hard about what really goes on operating into normal airports 98% of the time, then you get that one flight to a place so far off the grid the 24 hour news cycle hasn't gotten there yet to broadcast.

Are you high?
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Old 05-31-2015, 04:39 AM
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I think Jerry is spot on. This job does provide some unique challenges that one won't find flying from Sacramento to El Paso to Denver. That's what makes it such an adventure! If adventure isn't your thing then Jerry is 100% correct in saying that this job isn't for everybody. If you are up for a great time and some interesting experiences that a good portion of pilots never get to experience then come on in, the water's fine! For those who can relate: this is MAC flying without the tents and MREs. I love it.
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Old 05-31-2015, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Talon1011 View Post
I think Jerry is spot on. This job does provide some unique challenges that one won't find flying from Sacramento to El Paso to Denver. That's what makes it such an adventure! If adventure isn't your thing then Jerry is 100% correct in saying that this job isn't for everybody. If you are up for a great time and some interesting experiences that a good portion of pilots never get to experience then come on in, the water's fine! For those who can relate: this is MAC flying without the tents and MREs. I love it.

Bingo. And that's why I keep my app up to date.
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Old 05-31-2015, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JerrySpringer View Post
-How senior is PAE?
You won't hold it
-Is a new hire going to 767 or 747
Yes
-What is it like commuting for this job?
Same as your job, except the company buys you a ticket
-Most senior and most junior base.
Doesn't matter - It'll be different by the time you're on property, even if that's this summer
-Likely hood of getting JFK as a base.
Very good. As soon as your seniority allows and there is a vacancy.

protip 1: Bases are way less important than % seniority in base
protip 2: Nothing is spoonfed here. It can drive you insane, but your ability to survive this job (in a practical real-life dropped off in a country who's language you don't speak and you have no visa way; as well as systemic weaknesses from outside factors (worldwide flying with a dynamic environment of 'rules' and lack of support from a financial building on the northside of NYC) requires a survival instinct and an ability to adapt and improvise when things (often as they do here) go pear-shaped.

This IS NOT a job for everybody. Anyone can do the work, don't get me wrong, but think long an hard about what really goes on operating into normal airports 98% of the time, then you get that one flight to a place so far off the grid the 24 hour news cycle hasn't gotten there yet to broadcast.
This! I never wanted to fly the airlines. I enjoy taking the road less traveled. Doing the flying that only few get to do. For me, it isn't about flying the "Queen of the Skies." It's about all the amazing places I could end up! Though it will be nice to not have to describe the airplane I fly to everyone I talk to.
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Old 05-31-2015, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by FADECS View Post
I took the Test around May 20th (95%) & I got a call from HR while I was flying Friday (the 29th) so it won't be long! Called back when I landed but peeps all leave early on Fridays....GAHHHH!:
I took the test on the 4th of May passing with an 88, Still no call. I don't have any internal recommendations. This might be the difference in calls coming sooner than later. Fadec do you have internal recs? Thanks all for the info!!
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Old 05-31-2015, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FrancesTheMute View Post
Are you high?
Do you work here?

Atlas is a great adventure for sure. You will do more here than at any other place I can think of. But you will pay a price for that experience. Your body and health will suffer greatly.

The pilots at Atlas are some of the most unhealthy people I have ever seen. We have a serious obesity problem. If the FAA adopted a BMI factor, 25% the pilots here would lose their medicals.

It is quite challenging because the circadian rhythm disruptions throw your chemistry off.

They simply don't pay us enough for what we do, but dems da breaks man!
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Old 05-31-2015, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by FrancesTheMute View Post
Are you high?
Not at all...I think Jerry is spot on. Do yourselves a favor -- go back at least a year on this thread, get a tall glass of your favorite adult beverage (beer, coffee, or whatever), and start reading and taking notes. If the lifestyle, the flying, they abc, and xyz, all line up to what you want for the next few years and beyond (remember, you may NEVER make it to a legacy, LCC, or the likes of FDX, or UPS), then by all means apply and do your best to get on at Atlas.

It is a fun job (great group of pilot to hang with, amazing/crazy destinations and charters, etc etc), but in many cases a frustrating job (lack of support, still struggling to get a major airline CBA, etc), but ultimately a job. For a young guy in his thirties and early forties, it is still a flyover fix, not a full-stop landing.

Good luck.
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Old 05-31-2015, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 744driver View Post
Not at all...I think Jerry is spot on. Do yourselves a favor -- go back at least a year on this thread, get a tall glass of your favorite adult beverage (beer, coffee, or whatever), and start reading and taking notes. If the lifestyle, the flying, they abc, and xyz, all line up to what you want for the next few years and beyond (remember, you may NEVER make it to a legacy, LCC, or the likes of FDX, or UPS), then by all means apply and do your best to get on at Atlas.

It is a fun job (great group of pilot to hang with, amazing/crazy destinations and charters, etc etc), but in many cases a frustrating job (lack of support, still struggling to get a major airline CBA, etc), but ultimately a job. For a young guy in his thirties and early forties, it is still a flyover fix, not a full-stop landing.

Good luck.

I'm in my early mid 40's (LCC employed) and it's a full-stop landing. Will you just hire me and be done with it......lol....it's all about QOL and home based. C-17 life, but less hassle with no tents and MREs. Sounds good to me.
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