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Old 02-25-2011, 05:18 PM
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I worked at WN for 18 years now starting Atlas on Monday and I am stoked!!!!!!

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Me too!!! Not the WN part, but stoked to start on Monday!
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Old 02-25-2011, 05:20 PM
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haha, that's funny - i have the patience of a zen master! but let's get in there, right? no, i know all good things come to those who blah blah...

yeah, i was Jan. so I know we got nothing on some of the folks out there!
You guys will be called soon! I know how it feels to be patient and wait...
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:49 PM
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You guys will be called soon! I know how it feels to be patient and wait...
Congrats! If you need a good place down there for uniforms, use the Field Shop, about 4-5 blocks from the Crystal Palace. Leslie Behel Johnson runs it. Started by her dad decades ago. First class people and high quality stuff.
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by kc135driver
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Best thing is to do is look it up on the web. Every job fair has a website with a list of which companies are exhibiting. Specifically not sure at Atlas, but they did say they will probably be at the next WAI next year.

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Yup. I found some of them. Just don't know which ones to look up next. I understand Atlas went to a career day at an Air Force base near Sacramento (Travis, I think) last year. The event was open to the public. It's tricky to find out where these things are being held and then whether Atlas or other airlines will be attending.

But I'm looking ...

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Old 02-25-2011, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
Yup. I found some of them. Just don't know which ones to look up next. I understand Atlas went to a career day at an Air Force base near Sacramento (Travis, I think) last year. The event was open to the public. It's tricky to find out where these things are being held and then whether Atlas or other airlines will be attending.

But I'm looking ...

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If you find something please post. I'm searching too.

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Old 02-25-2011, 07:29 PM
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I just got a 'thanks but no thanks' from the HR department, wondered what is currently competitive?

Did get a phone call, then never heard back, so I called to be told I wasn't selected for the next step. Surprised I got the phone call even, so all in all not a bad experience.
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat
There's a lot of talk about other carriers having better QOL and better money over the long term. I suspect that many are guilty of making the mistake of thinking that past performance is a mirror of future earnings.

I'm not knocking the other carriers, but let's consider the current climate. The current oil price spikes have already added over a billion in costs to the likes of UAL/CAL, American, FDX and others...including AirTran. How do they recover costs? Increase prices and add fuel surcharges. They can and likely will cut capacity...meaning furloughs, which may well happen soon if the prices don't come down hard and fast...don't bet on that.

The Atlas model is based on customers paying fuel costs. Always has been. And given the way that management has dampened out the feast and famine curve of a deathly slow first quarter that ramps up to a max effort in the fourth...by diversifying the model to always have a steady revenue stream...I would maintain that the long term is much more stable and will also end up being pretty good in terms of income.

Yes, the flexibility enjoyed by customers is a pain in the ass sometimes...maybe all the time. That said, contrast that to a passenger industry that refuses to change their business model and a freight business (FDX and UPS) that has business model that still counts on lightweight overnight envelopes of documents that 20 years ago HAD to go by air. As technology evolves, that need lessens when you can hit the "send" key and electronically transmit those secure documents for free.

So now you're down to boxes and the bulk space problem. Yes, there will always be a market for that. Many will ship by truck. At that point they have to diversify or consolidate operations. Into markets where others...like Atlas...will already have a well established presence and the cost of entry will be tremendously high.

As for the young lady (and others) who pimped Atlas for the type rating and then left?

Karma can be an ugly thing.
Atlas relies on government contracts, FedEx and UPS do nt. And envelopes can't be teleported to their destinations yet. Our business has grown over that last 20 years. How do you think your stuff from Amazon gets to where it needs to go. We're bringing the new Ipads to the US next week. When fuel goes up, UPS and FedEx have the ability to pass those costs onto our customers directly, and we do. I'm not sure where you're going with all this...
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Originally Posted by hazrd
I just got a 'thanks but no thanks' from the HR department, wondered what is currently competitive?

Did get a phone call, then never heard back, so I called to be told I wasn't selected for the next step. Surprised I got the phone call even, so all in all not a bad experience.
Just curious, when did you interview?

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When fuel goes up, UPS and FedEx have the ability to pass those costs onto our customers directly, and we do. I'm not sure where you're going with all this...
True, but with Atlas, the customer foots the bill for the fuel. NOT Atlas.

Also, not ALL of their business is dependent on the government. A sizable chunk? Sure, but not all.
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Old 02-25-2011, 09:42 PM
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We are only flying about 20% for AMC work...rest is commercial air carriers, like Emirates, Qantas, and several freight forwarders.

I think you are mistaken about what it is that we do...this is not the thread for that. As for our business plan...our financial results speak for themselves.

How the company treats the staff, pilots/fe's, etc however is another story. I am not going to compare Atlas to USP/FDX...but I'll take our current, and future prospects, and our current and future QoL over most of the Legacy airlines.

There are very few airlines I would leave Atlas for...UPS, FDX, and possibly SWA. The rest? Not so much...
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I can narrow that down some. I've seen one other airline for 14 years before it evaporated and this place wins hands down. As for the possibilities mentioned, Fresno to Reno to Oakland to Phoenix compared with Frankfurt to Dubai to Hong Kong to Sydney...not even close. The other freighter outfits, maybe but probably not. I'm happy here and plan to hang my hat on this peg for the 8 1/2 years I have left!

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