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Old 12-17-2015 | 04:47 PM
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How many days worth of open time pick ups is this? Seems like a lot when they are telling us we can expect 72 hours worth of credit monthly. But what do I know I'm only in week 2 of training for 767 lol

QUOTE=FrancesTheMute;2029859]It's not too difficult to pull down 90-100k your first year at Atlas. I've only been here 8 months and on line for 5 months and so far my lowest credit month was 87 hours and highest was 113 with at least 12 days off every month. I lucked out and got Christmas off too.[/QUOTE]
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Old 12-17-2015 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Upntheair27
How many days worth of open time pick ups is this? Seems like a lot when they are telling us we can expect 72 hours worth of credit monthly. But what do I know I'm only in week 2 of training for 767 lol
If you don't call in sick I assume all the 76 lines are 17 days, 17 X 4.85 (CRT) = 82 hours of pay. Thats the minimum you will get paid if you only do your bidline.

So yes I would at least expect 72 hours a month credit (72/4.85 = 15 day line)
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Old 12-17-2015 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by flydc
I was offered the 2/1 767 class. I asked if I could hold out for a 747 class and KF said no. I declined the offer.

Current RJ captain, 4500tt, 1000TPIC... I made over 90k this year with weekends and holidays off. End goal is a legacy. I would've done it for the 74 but I wasn't as interested in the 76 flying or being seat-locked into a 3yr pay cut.

Everyone I met at Atlas was very friendly and professional. I hope when guys like me turn down the job, it helps you all to get a better contract!
Sounds like you made the right choice for all involved.
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Old 12-17-2015 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FrancesTheMute
It's not too difficult to pull down 90-100k your first year at Atlas. I've only been here 8 months and on line for 5 months and so far my lowest credit month was 87 hours and highest was 113 with at least 12 days off every month. I lucked out and got Christmas off too.
Your mileage may vary. I've yet to break $100k and I'm on my 5th year. I was senior on the 767 and averaged 72 credit hours/month. Should be a lot easier on the 747.
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Old 12-17-2015 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Upntheair27
How many days worth of open time pick ups is this? Seems like a lot when they are telling us we can expect 72 hours worth of credit monthly. But what do I know I'm only in week 2 of training for 767 lol
I'll do mid-90s this year, 3rd year on the 767. I don't work too hard, so we have guys who pick up OT regularly who do better than that. Still woefully underpaid for the equipment, though. I picked up maybe 3-4 trips in 2015.
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Old 12-17-2015 | 07:34 PM
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The various number of credit hours claimed by different pilots is confusing. How is it that some say you are lucky if you break minimum guarantee, some make about 80hrs doing just their lines, and yet others are claiming 100+ hrs for only picking up an extra day here and there? Does base have something to do with that? Ignorance of what and how to bid? Or are some guys working way more than their standard 17? What I see on here and what I hear from guys I know on the line seem to vary quite a bit. Any insight?
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Old 12-17-2015 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dutch747
If you don't call in sick I assume all the 76 lines are 17 days, 17 X 4.85 (CRT) = 82 hours of pay. Thats the minimum you will get paid if you only do your bidline.

So yes I would at least expect 72 hours a month credit (72/4.85 = 15 day line)
Do you guys have a min day credit? And if so, does it apply on days during your footprint when you are sitting in a hotel (either because of long overnight, or in domicile)?
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Old 12-17-2015 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tacos
Do you guys have a min day credit? And if so, does it apply on days during your footprint when you are sitting in a hotel (either because of long overnight, or in domicile)?

Typical lines are 17 days. Min day credit is 4.85 hours whether you fly or not. 4.85x17=82.4 hours 82.4x79.60=6563 per month. If you volunteer 2 extra days per month that's 4.85x2=9.7 hours. Then add 2 hours for the first day and 4 hours for the second day so 9.7 plus 6 hours = 15.7 hours of overtime. 15.7x79.60=$1250. So add $6563 and $1250 (overtime) equals $7812. $7812x12=$93750 per year NOT including per diem which usually runs about $850 per month. Clear as mud? If I can figure it out so can you.
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Old 12-17-2015 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dutch747
If you don't call in sick I assume all the 76 lines are 17 days, 17 X 4.85 (CRT) = 82 hours of pay. Thats the minimum you will get paid if you only do your bidline.
One wrinkle, the 4.85 is only credited for a FULL 24 hours (24/4.95=4.85). If your pattern starts at 0900z and finishes at 0600z, your pay credit is reduced 5.45 hours (27/4.95). Also, on R1 and training, no credit accrues.
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Old 12-17-2015 | 10:22 PM
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It's a rig. For every 4.95 hours of your line you get an hour's pay. That total or your block and DH time, whichever is greater, is what you get paid. You may have a 17 day line but if the trip leaves at 12z on day one and ends at 12z on day 17 you have (16x24)/4.95=77.57 hours pay. If iyour line only 15 or 16 days it will be less.
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