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Old 12-12-2015 | 04:26 AM
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Hey folks,

I'm looking for some thoughts on a career move from current Atlas employees.

I'm currently a regional FO w/ approx. 3100TT and 0 TPIC. I'm about 1-2 years off from upgrading. My QOL is great now and I'm surviving on pay. Obviously QOL will go down and pay will go up upon upgrade. My end goal is mainline.

Travel has always been huge to me and the type of international flying and aircraft at Atlas sounds very appealing to me. My reservations about going to Atlas would be the commitment to being gone long blocks of time as well as losing flight benefits on mainline for my family and myself.

My two questions;

1. What would be a better path to the mainline, an FO with a 767/747 type and international experience or a regional CA with 1000 PIC?

2. Are pilots at Atlas acquiring enough airline miles to buy the family occasional flights?

Thanks for your time.
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Old 12-12-2015 | 05:29 AM
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We have airline benefits after 6 months (ZED). If you think the long blocks are going to be an issue, or may have family ramifications...stay away. Get your Jet PIC, focus on your end goal. If we pull out a decent contract I may feel differently, but at these wages (for this kind of work) I'd get the PIC.




QUOTE=pilot123456;2026294]Hey folks,

I'm looking for some thoughts on a career move from current Atlas employees.

I'm currently a regional FO w/ approx. 3100TT and 0 TPIC. I'm about 1-2 years off from upgrading. My QOL is great now and I'm surviving on pay. Obviously QOL will go down and pay will go up upon upgrade. My end goal is mainline.

Travel has always been huge to me and the type of international flying and aircraft at Atlas sounds very appealing to me. My reservations about going to Atlas would be the commitment to being gone long blocks of time as well as losing flight benefits on mainline for my family and myself.

My two questions;

1. What would be a better path to the mainline, an FO with a 767/747 type and international experience or a regional CA with 1000 PIC?

2. Are pilots at Atlas acquiring enough airline miles to buy the family occasional flights?

Thanks for your time.[/QUOTE]
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Old 12-12-2015 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pilot123456
My end goal is mainline.

If mainline is your end goal, stay at your regional, get your tpic and wait. Heavy time with 0 pic puts you at the end of the qualified candidates. Take it from me, that's where I am. Not to mention with all the regional/mainline agreements, coming here will make it that much harder to get on there. Stay put, enjoy your quality of life and forget Atlas.
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Old 12-12-2015 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pilot123456
Hey folks,

I'm looking for some thoughts on a career move from current Atlas employees.

I'm currently a regional FO w/ approx. 3100TT and 0 TPIC. I'm about 1-2 years off from upgrading. My QOL is great now and I'm surviving on pay. Obviously QOL will go down and pay will go up upon upgrade. My end goal is mainline.

Travel has always been huge to me and the type of international flying and aircraft at Atlas sounds very appealing to me. My reservations about going to Atlas would be the commitment to being gone long blocks of time as well as losing flight benefits on mainline for my family and myself.

My two questions;

1. What would be a better path to the mainline, an FO with a 767/747 type and international experience or a regional CA with 1000 PIC?

2. Are pilots at Atlas acquiring enough airline miles to buy the family occasional flights?

Thanks for your time.
Sounds to me like you should stay at a regional based on your family and your travel benefits. Atlas is a place you should only consider if you don't mind being stuck here for several years and (maybe) making a career out of. It's not a particularly great stepping stone....
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Old 12-12-2015 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
Ummm and in addition to what was posted above, there is nothing in the way of pool seniority with HR. They hire who they want when they want and no one is entitled to a class date sooner just because they've been "in the pool longer." That is how it works with most jobs.
Takes a certain kind of person to feel entitled to stuff before even being hired. Also if I were in HR I'd quickly take anyone who requests specific type and throw their app in the circular file. I'd rather hire a less qualified person that is just happy to be here.
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Old 12-12-2015 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by iPilot
Takes a certain kind of person to feel entitled to stuff before even being hired. Also if I were in HR I'd quickly take anyone who requests specific type and throw their app in the circular file. I'd rather hire a less qualified person that is just happy to be here.

Asking a question does not equal entitlement or not happy. If you have a preference ask. If the answer is no say thanks and take what you get.

I asked and I was told no. I said thanks and I'm pumped to get a great job either way.


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Old 12-12-2015 | 03:59 PM
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I'm about 1-2 years off from upgrading. My QOL is great now and I'm surviving on pay. Obviously QOL will go down and pay will go up upon upgrade. My end goal is mainline.
Stay there and upgrade to capt soon...best for mainline, I think.
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Old 12-12-2015 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by iPilot
Takes a certain kind of person to feel entitled to stuff before even being hired. Also if I were in HR I'd quickly take anyone who requests specific type and throw their app in the circular file. I'd rather hire a less qualified person that is just happy to be here.
My entire interview group was told to put our choice of aircraft (if we had one) on our file, as well as an availability date. I doubt they would ask an entire interview group to do that just to weed out those seeking the 747 type. I'm just saying...
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Old 12-12-2015 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bushpilot2004
I would suggest calling or emailing KF re this; I emailed her last week and she was kind enough to give me an update on my class standing.
Could you please share KF email? I would like to follow up with her, it is very hard to reach her on the phone. Thanks!
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Old 12-12-2015 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BYOB
My entire interview group was told to put our choice of aircraft (if we had one) on our file, as well as an availability date. I doubt they would ask an entire interview group to do that just to weed out those seeking the 747 type. I'm just saying...
Nope, they're trying to find the ones who want the 767. Everyone wants the whale so they pay special attention to those who ask for the light twin. I gambled on that and asked for the 767. Turned out to be a good call cuz I got the call the next day.
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