The -400s with the old EFB mounts already have the power outlets...they are the USB outlets in the floor under the old EFB mounts. Atlas just needs to activate them to provide the power.

Email??? a few weeks ago said the iPad mounts have already been installed in some 747s...

 

Anyone have any idea of upcoming class dates and types?

 

Interested in this answer as well if anyone knows. I hear that there is a 76 class on Feb 1st. And supposedly a 74 class at some point in February as well, but I don't know the date.

Also, I have looked through this forum extensively and couldn't really find much about the benefits/disadvantages to being on the 76 vs the 74. I know you don't really have a choice. But, besides the obvious pay differences what else is there? Is training better/worse on one vs the other? What about aircraft comparisons and trip type/lengths. Sounds like you will be sitting reserve in ANC on the 74, and sitting reserve in CVG on the 76. Thanks!

 

767:

-More variety in flying. Overall the 747 flies to more different places but they generally keep the flying within the base the same.
-No high risk war zone flying
-Generally better crews (This is heresay, but I can say every crew so far has been great, but so was the 747 crew I deadheaded with).
-Better training program
-CVG and JFK base
-Will be able to bid over to 777 FO if it shows up.
-Tons of deadheading. Maybe plan to block 20-45 hours per month while deadheading at least that.
-Rest facilities don't exist. In the 300 Freighter you get 3 supernumary seats that recline ever so slightly in the cockpit. Right next to the lav! In the 300 pax, you get a first class seat that has a curtain that closes. In the 200 Freighter there is nothing.
-More flexibility in the schedules. Far less 17 in a row, a lot more 10 on, 4 of, 4 on, 8 off kind of thing.
-Some long flights, but lots of short hops too like CVG-YHM or CVG-MKE-MSP.
-You'll land lots. Never have to worry about currency.

747:

-More bases
-More advanced aircraft
-Mostly long long legs with 3-4 crew. Rarely ever 2 crew. You'll land once a month at best.
-Generally considered to be harder to train on due to the self taught nature of the training program
-Far more comfortable to be on for an 8+ hour leg. Bunks, coffee makers (the 76 does NOT have one, just a hot cup and instant coffee), first class seats, and a large galley.
-Pay. This is the big one. Second year pay is $84 on the 767 and $100 on the 747. They both go up at about that same rate with about the same gap. This is the only reason I will bid over in 3 years. This all could change.
-You'll block a lot more.
-You'll have to commute to ANC. Can be a long commute if you're not from the West Coast. Can get out of ANC soon enough.
-Almost all 17 days in a row.


Maybe someone with more experience here can chime in further.

 

Very good info, thanks for the reply!

Since there is no crew rest area in the 76, I'm guessing you normally fly with 2 pilots? And max day must be around 12 hours or so?

Also, how about the difference in the cockpits. I would think that the 767-200s and 300s are older and not glass? Vs. the 747 are almost all updated correct? Difference in comfort / how loud in cockpit? I saw earlier in this thread that the 767 freighter sounded like a train inside.

 

I know nothing about the 76 lifestyle.

I'll just add that everything varies (where have you heard that before?) I got 3 400 landings this month. While one month bids tend to be 16 or 17 days straight, two month bids are more broken up. Maybe 8 days then some days off followed by 15 over the end of the month and 10 toward the end of the second month.

 

767 300s are real nice and quiet

 

The DHL flights out of CVG (YHM, DTW-MSP, SFO, PHX-SAN, GSO-BWI) are all 2 pilot operations (although you do get a fair number of jumpseaters).

The pax ops depend on scheduled block hours, but three man crews are common (all the oceanic stuff is 3 man crews, and when OE is in full swing 4 man crews start showing up a lot more).

The -300F's in Asia are 3 man crews.

Even the "new" -300F's in Asia have steam gauges. While every 767 we operate is at least slightly different, they all have steam gauges with a PFD and EHSI. If you are coming from a glass cockpit, you'll need to be prepared to expand your scan.

The freighters in the CVG DHL operation are by far the loudest we operate. The pax planes and the -300F's are much more bearable.

 

Do most guys wear Bose headsets in the loud birds using the hot Mic and interphone?



QUOTE=Professor Chaos;2036176]The DHL flights out of CVG (YHM, DTW-MSP, SFO, PHX-SAN, GSO-BWI) are all 2 pilot operations (although you do get a fair number of jumpseaters).

The pax ops depend on scheduled block hours, but three man crews are common (all the oceanic stuff is 3 man crews, and when OE is in full swing 4 man crews start showing up a lot more).

The -300F's in Asia are 3 man crews.

Even the "new" -300F's in Asia have steam gauges. While every 767 we operate is at least slightly different, they all have steam gauges with a PFD and EHSI. If you are coming from a glass cockpit, you'll need to be prepared to expand your scan.

The freighters in the CVG DHL operation are by far the loudest we operate. The pax planes and the -300F's are much more bearable.[/QUOTE]

 

No hot mics in the -200 tuna cans... You could key up the intercom each time using the "down" part of the yoke switch (they don't lock), but that's such a pain that nobody uses those. In the -200s and -300 passenger aircraft, we just yell at each other.

The -300Fs have lockable intercoms with ANR headsets, so we do fly those with hot mics.