Atlas Air Hiring
02-24-2016, 06:59 PM
Derp...
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 386
Originally Posted by cropdusterdave
apexpheonix,
I got the invite to test with an internal rec from a friend. Attended the job fair 2 days later and had a great interaction (she even recognized my name from having emailed me the test invite) Told me to make myself available for interviews the week after next. Got another invite to test after the fair (pretty sure everyone who attended and was qualified got one) Passed the test with a 100% (no kidding..it's not that bad)
Call never came. Interviews came and went. My friend on the inside has been pulling for me....but still crickets after 2 months. I'm a military heavy guy with immediate availability and about the standard hours a mil guy gets hired with. I met people at the fair that were both impressively more qualified than me military and civilian.....and far less qualified that were all subsequently hired.
If I were you I'd use my fast pass and hard earned dollars to talk to other carriers present at the fair....just my opinion. As for me, I'm still hoping for a call and will attempt contact at appropriate intervals and see what becomes of it.
And before I get burned at the steak by the same 6 or 7 folks on here for wanting to work for Atlas... A military guy that is off active duty, keeping current part time (and paid part time) at a reserve unit with a wife and kids needs a ******* JOB. I have blanketed the earth with resumes and applications. I've read every single page of this thread and I know the problems and the uncertainty of what lies ahead. Familiar with the schedule, familiar with the type of flying. God help me, I really enjoy it. Please, no speeches.
I got the invite to test with an internal rec from a friend. Attended the job fair 2 days later and had a great interaction (she even recognized my name from having emailed me the test invite) Told me to make myself available for interviews the week after next. Got another invite to test after the fair (pretty sure everyone who attended and was qualified got one) Passed the test with a 100% (no kidding..it's not that bad)
Call never came. Interviews came and went. My friend on the inside has been pulling for me....but still crickets after 2 months. I'm a military heavy guy with immediate availability and about the standard hours a mil guy gets hired with. I met people at the fair that were both impressively more qualified than me military and civilian.....and far less qualified that were all subsequently hired.
If I were you I'd use my fast pass and hard earned dollars to talk to other carriers present at the fair....just my opinion. As for me, I'm still hoping for a call and will attempt contact at appropriate intervals and see what becomes of it.
And before I get burned at the steak by the same 6 or 7 folks on here for wanting to work for Atlas... A military guy that is off active duty, keeping current part time (and paid part time) at a reserve unit with a wife and kids needs a ******* JOB. I have blanketed the earth with resumes and applications. I've read every single page of this thread and I know the problems and the uncertainty of what lies ahead. Familiar with the schedule, familiar with the type of flying. God help me, I really enjoy it. Please, no speeches.
A) 100% is not exactly a good thing. There is only one way (well two, but we are pilots, so we know that none of us is that smart) to get 100%. You had the gouge. 100% is generally not a good score to have. Personally I think it's great. It shows initiative, desire, and CRM (you used all resources).
B) Atlas is worried that they will invest the money to train you and you will split for Delta/UAL/FedEX/SWA. They know how marketable you are to the majors.
I'm not trying to bust your chops, this is just how it is my friend. You need to convince them that you aren't going to take your highly qualified self and run off to a major ASAP. They need to know they are hiring you because you're going to stay here, not because you simply need a ****ing job right now.
Keep after it if you really want it. In the meantime, reach out to your military buddies for connections at the majors. Atlas will still be here if you want to leave a legacy carrier to come here. That would really prove to Atlas that you want to be here (come from a legacy/major to Atlas). It would also prove to us that you really did cheat your backside off to get 100%, because doing what I said would prove you are really dumb! ;-P
02-24-2016, 07:23 PM
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Huh, well thanks for the info. I'd really hate to think that I'm "over qualified" Very flattering actually, never heard that before 
I really like Atlas' business model, trip structure (or lack thereof), variety, layovers, schedule, and gateway travel. I'd prefer to stay and fight for a good contract.
As for the test score. I paid $65 for the Gleim online ATP study guide and did nothing but answer test questions for 3 days straight. 90% of the questions were directly from that source. Of the rest....I had to give my best guess on a couple...the rest were wx symbology. There ya go...that's the updated gouge. If you can't get a decent score then you obviously don't care. I had planned to use CRM but in a gut-check moment in the spirit of Leroy Jenkins....went at it solo mission.
I really like Atlas' business model, trip structure (or lack thereof), variety, layovers, schedule, and gateway travel. I'd prefer to stay and fight for a good contract.As for the test score. I paid $65 for the Gleim online ATP study guide and did nothing but answer test questions for 3 days straight. 90% of the questions were directly from that source. Of the rest....I had to give my best guess on a couple...the rest were wx symbology. There ya go...that's the updated gouge. If you can't get a decent score then you obviously don't care. I had planned to use CRM but in a gut-check moment in the spirit of Leroy Jenkins....went at it solo mission.
02-24-2016, 07:29 PM
Derp...
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 386
Originally Posted by cropdusterdave
Huh, well thanks for the info. I'd really hate to think that I'm "over qualified" Very flattering actually, never heard that before I really like Atlas' business model, trip structure (or lack thereof), variety, layovers, schedule, and gateway travel. I'd prefer to stay and fight for a good contract.
As for the test score. I paid $65 for the Gleim online ATP study guide and did nothing but answer test questions for 3 days straight. 90% of the questions were directly from that source. Of the rest....I had to give my best guess on a couple...the rest were wx symbology. There ya go...that's the updated gouge. If you can't get a decent score then you obviously don't care. I had planned to use CRM but in a gut-check moment in the spirit of Leroy Jenkins....went at it solo mission.
I really like Atlas' business model, trip structure (or lack thereof), variety, layovers, schedule, and gateway travel. I'd prefer to stay and fight for a good contract.As for the test score. I paid $65 for the Gleim online ATP study guide and did nothing but answer test questions for 3 days straight. 90% of the questions were directly from that source. Of the rest....I had to give my best guess on a couple...the rest were wx symbology. There ya go...that's the updated gouge. If you can't get a decent score then you obviously don't care. I had planned to use CRM but in a gut-check moment in the spirit of Leroy Jenkins....went at it solo mission.
02-25-2016, 03:39 AM
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 177
Originally Posted by cropdusterdave
Huh, well thanks for the info. I'd really hate to think that I'm "over qualified" Very flattering actually, never heard that before I really like Atlas' business model, trip structure (or lack thereof), variety, layovers, schedule, and gateway travel. I'd prefer to stay and fight for a good contract.
As for the test score. I paid $65 for the Gleim online ATP study guide and did nothing but answer test questions for 3 days straight. 90% of the questions were directly from that source. Of the rest....I had to give my best guess on a couple...the rest were wx symbology. There ya go...that's the updated gouge. If you can't get a decent score then you obviously don't care. I had planned to use CRM but in a gut-check moment in the spirit of Leroy Jenkins....went at it solo mission.
I really like Atlas' business model, trip structure (or lack thereof), variety, layovers, schedule, and gateway travel. I'd prefer to stay and fight for a good contract.As for the test score. I paid $65 for the Gleim online ATP study guide and did nothing but answer test questions for 3 days straight. 90% of the questions were directly from that source. Of the rest....I had to give my best guess on a couple...the rest were wx symbology. There ya go...that's the updated gouge. If you can't get a decent score then you obviously don't care. I had planned to use CRM but in a gut-check moment in the spirit of Leroy Jenkins....went at it solo mission.
02-25-2016, 03:49 AM
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 386
Originally Posted by Treehorn
Cool. You took the most difficult, time and money costly route. Way to go. Here's your cookie. 🍪
02-25-2016, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BYOB
Jesus....{face palm}. Have a heart! The guy wants the job and is working towards his goal. Nice response, you must be a pleasure to spend time with in and out of the cockpit.
02-25-2016, 04:43 AM
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Joined APC: Oct 2007
Posts: 94
Originally Posted by BYOB
Several things going on here that stand out and are glaring bright lights against you:
B) Atlas is worried that they will invest the money to train you and you will split for Delta/UAL/FedEX/SWA. They know how marketable you are to the majors.
I'm not trying to bust your chops, this is just how it is my friend. You need to convince them that you aren't going to take your highly qualified self and run off to a major ASAP. They need to know they are hiring you because you're going to stay here, not because you simply need a ****ing job right now.
Keep after it if you really want it. In the meantime, reach out to your military buddies for connections at the majors. Atlas will still be here if you want to leave a legacy carrier to come here. That would really prove to Atlas that you want to be here (come from a legacy/major to Atlas). It would also prove to us that you really did cheat your backside off to get 100%, because doing what I said would prove you are really dumb! ;-P
B) Atlas is worried that they will invest the money to train you and you will split for Delta/UAL/FedEX/SWA. They know how marketable you are to the majors.
I'm not trying to bust your chops, this is just how it is my friend. You need to convince them that you aren't going to take your highly qualified self and run off to a major ASAP. They need to know they are hiring you because you're going to stay here, not because you simply need a ****ing job right now.
Keep after it if you really want it. In the meantime, reach out to your military buddies for connections at the majors. Atlas will still be here if you want to leave a legacy carrier to come here. That would really prove to Atlas that you want to be here (come from a legacy/major to Atlas). It would also prove to us that you really did cheat your backside off to get 100%, because doing what I said would prove you are really dumb! ;-P
02-25-2016, 02:02 PM
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 264
Originally Posted by cropdusterdave
I got the invite to test with an internal rec from a friend. Attended the job fair 2 days later and had a great interaction (she even recognized my name from having emailed me the test invite) Told me to make myself available for interviews the week after next. Got another invite to test after the fair (pretty sure everyone who attended and was qualified got one) Passed the test with a 100% (no kidding..it's not that bad)
Another possibility? I don't know you, so please don't take this personally, but could you have been black balled? Such does exist. If one of your buddies didn't really like working with you, a note to the chief pilot or HR saying,"Don't hire Mr. X!" will also get you put on the do not call list. I know of a couple guys that can't figure out why they haven't been called. They don't know that their friends at the company have sent DNH letters instead of rec letters.
Hopefully you're just overqualified....
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