Waiting around and riding coat tails isn't getting us anywhere.

 

Not true for YOU doesn't make it not true regardless of how long you have been here. I don't need to justify my paycheck to you or anybody just to prove a point but Aug. was a vacation month for me so I got min guarantee. July: 18.97 above. June: 28.26 above. How is this lying?

DH's and alternate travel commercial into position on the front end of patterns and I stay home while on rig.

No spin, just leveraging the schedule to stay home and get paid. I NEVER said you can expect 80 hours.....I am merely stating what I have been accustomed to getting.

But don't get me wrong either.....we have a poor pay structure and we have a poor contract and we are in need of improvements to our business processes and work conditions.

 

Okay, just keeping it real

 

Wait....28 above? 90hrs? Okay, so you worked someoff days somehow. Good job.

 

Perhaps yes, but not operating.....the company is stingy with credit so they have been putting DH's on the end of patterns. I have been taking snapshots, accepting the changes, getting released and taking Polar flights home. I have been flying QF lines which are notoriously late so my patterned DH rig continues into days off while I am at home. This is my definition of SHOPing and it does not undercut our union position.

 

Whether you believe it or not....you are undercutting the union position.

Whether you operate it or not by allowing even DH on off days you are hurting the rest of us. Justify however you want but don't think you are fooling anyone.

 

Some posters come here just to negate, refute, argue and oppose positions just to give themselves a reason to speak up. When justified, I agree with those that have a sound argument with which to take a stand so I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt here for not clearly understanding me. Because, without explaining your reasoning behind saying that by following the CBA, I am undercutting the unions position, then you are just boxing yourself into the aforementioned category. So, let me clarify.....


...Scheduling puts the DH on my pattern prior to end of pattern of which I accept. I don't ask for it nor can I decline as it is an allowable change per the CBA. Because it is a DH at the end of pattern, I ask to be released and I am per the CBA. I then take a different, earlier flight home but the flight on my pattern of which shows me DHing back to base, gets delayed into my X days of which I am paid for an involuntary extension per the CBA. Now, how is this undercutting the union position? One would think that to demand getting paid per the CBA is a good thing wouldn't you agree?

Now if you don't understand that, you just can't fix ignorance.

 

Wait. What?

What you're ACTUALLY doing is THEIR JOB of getting you home.

Nice that you can jigger the deal so CRT runs while you're at home. Nice for YOU. But make no mistake, you're relieving the company of the burden to return you home.

You're helping yourself (first) and the company (second). To hell with everyone else.

These are the sort of internal rationalizations that will stop when we look ourselves in the mirror and ask ourselves: Who am I helping? Myself? The Company? Or my Colleagues.

Just because you *think* you're sticking it to the company with your CRT running at home doesn't mean you're actually SHOPing.

That's just looking out for yourself.

/dogpile

 

Accepting an extension you are not required to accept helps ONLY the company. I'm not saying this was the case or targeting DT. However justifying this by saying you waived rest and made extra days of pay sitting on your sofa is HOPIng. I have heard this kind of justification on the line.."I made them pay twice to move the jet" blah blah blah. That's peanuts compared to the cost of a service failure that they should be tagged with for their speculative extension program that is contrary to our pathetic CBA.

Edit to add after DT's clarification: You don't have to accept an extension to DH. You can insist on a commercial ticket home. Sometimes it's unavoidable because there may not be commercial service available but if you have already made your own travel arrangements then you won't be there to insist they follow the contract and that hurts all of us.

 

How do you figure that I am relieving the company sending me home? I still get my GW travel home of which they are contractually obligated to give me. I follow the CBA to the letter.

What would you have me do??? Stay on my DH, stay on the delayed airplane is this example to help my colleagues rather than get back to base earlier and get paid for the extension without actually suffering the loss?

This is just matter of fact, I am not planning it this way nor am "jiggering" it to help myself out.

Dogpile all you want but I don't do anything contrary to the CBA and I leverage all of our allowances including GW. I have never waived GW travel.