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Old 11-16-2019 | 09:47 AM
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‘Anti-labor judge’
‘Pro corporate arbitration’
Those terms are getting old bro, so are loosing strategies.
It doesn't matter if it's Teamsters or ALPA or any other union in the US. It is VERY VERY difficult for us workers and our unions: Our Politicians have voted in anti-worker laws, policies and regulations over the years. The mid-50s us workers had the highest share of the company pie. Since Reagan, especially, everything has changed so that the 0.1% get more and more and more.

To change things so that Us Workers are on a level playing field with the 0.1%, will require Us to vote in Politicians that are pro-worker, and pro-America, instead of pro-0.1%.
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Old 11-16-2019 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Transition
Once again stonewalled at the negotiating table. This company is constantly playing fast and loose with our careers. While other companies are currently in Section 6 and enacting mid-contract raises to remain competitive in an attempt to corner the pilot market, Atlas is determined to win an arbitrated, amalgamated contract while the talent leaves for greener pastures. This company is a hollow shell of what it used to be and what it could have been. They're even getting destroyed and called out about their weird tactics by their investors on earnings calls. Atlas is a dumpster fire. I'm a 747 Captain weighing a move back to the regionals. It's just not worth my time anymore. I'm leaving tons of money and quality of life on the table while the company tries to bet against proven economic principles.
Every organization (and person) in Our Universe is either improving, or degenerating. Right now Atlas is degenerating, because our upper management did not understand the Pilot Shortage situation when they planned their strategy for our new contract.
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Old 11-16-2019 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
Every organization (and person) in Our Universe is either improving, or degenerating. Right now Atlas is degenerating, because our upper management did not understand the Pilot Shortage situation when they planned their strategy for our new contract.
Everybody has a purpose in life - even if only as an object lesson for others. While Atlas going under will be a tragedy for the senior pilots who will lose seniority it will actually be a good thing for most of us as it underlines the fact that this isn’t 2005 and contracts really do need to be competitive to other management groups and even the NMB.

Suing your pilot group may not be a strategy other management groups want to emulate.
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Old 11-22-2019 | 11:17 AM
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Another loss in court. Things get worse and worse at Atlas Air. Flight instructing is starting to sound better.
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Old 11-22-2019 | 12:22 PM
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Another loss for the Teamsters in court.
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Old 11-22-2019 | 01:48 PM
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Bingo. I’m sure we will file another meaningless appeal and extend this process even further. All in! Durrrrrrrr
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Old 11-22-2019 | 02:20 PM
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With support and enthusiasm like that, how could we ever lose anything?

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Old 11-22-2019 | 02:33 PM
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With support and enthusiasm like that, how could we ever lose anything?

I paid $6,000 in union dues and assessments this year, that was my support and enthusiasm. All in! Keep those newhire pizzas, lanyards, booting and shopping, winery retreats, retarded ATAMs, steak dinners and endless UB coming! It’s a winning strategy and the company is really feeling the pain!
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Old 11-22-2019 | 02:34 PM
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Atlas Air and Southern Air Prevail in Appeals Court Ruling Against Teamsters Pilot Union

PURCHASE, N.Y., November 21, 2019 – Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings, Inc. (Nasdaq: AAWW) today confirmed that its subsidiaries Atlas Air, Inc. and Southern Air, Inc. have prevailed in another legal dispute with the union that represents its pilots in ongoing negotiations, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters.

The decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit affirms a March 13, 2018, decision by the Southern District Court of New York compelling the Teamsters to arbitrate whether the merger provisions in Atlas Air and Southern Air’s collective bargaining agreements apply to the bargaining process. Today’s decision, as well as two binding decisions by arbitrators rendered in favor of both Atlas Air and Southern Air this summer, have made clear that IBT must engage in the current Atlas Air and Southern Air collective bargaining agreements’ expedited and defined process for achieving a joint collective bargaining agreement.

In a separate labor-related decision rendered in July 2019, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia unanimously affirmed a federal district court ruling in November 2017 that ordered the union to stop an intentional and illegal work slowdown by Atlas Air pilots in violation of the Railway Labor Act. The unanimous ruling from a three-judge panel upheld the lower-court order that blocked the union from continuing to engage in improper activities such as excessive sick calls on short notice or refusing to volunteer for open time.

“With these decisions behind us, it’s time for the union to honor its obligations under the collective bargaining agreements and these binding decisions. Specifically, the union has an obligation to produce an integrated seniority list and engage in direct bargaining for a defined and limited period of time. In ongoing negotiations, the union has yet to provide us with a comprehensive economic proposal covering pay and benefits for evaluation. We remain committed to working collaboratively with union leaders to efficiently negotiate and complete the contract,” said William J. Flynn, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Atlas Air Worldwide.
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Old 12-03-2019 | 10:18 AM
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Ok so you won? Congratulations!
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