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Old 12-13-2021 | 11:38 AM
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I appologize if my search function judo skills are lacking, but I haven't stumbled upon a recent discussion on this topic. How would a commute from Germany work? Assuming that FRA can't be used as a gateway. I am looking at a 2.5 hour train ride to CGN for the MEM flight, or 4.5 hours to LEJ for the CVG flight if I could jumpseat on a company flight. I realize that the routes can be changed by the customer and I realize I would lose an extra day off over gateway travel. I read that there is currently no international jumpseating, but does that apply to travel for work? Is there any protection for not showing at base on time if one or two scheduled JS flights cancel? Can a JS be used in combination with gateway from CVG or MEM to get to ANC or LAX/ONT?

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Old 12-13-2021 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Clue32
I appologize if my search function judo skills are lacking, but I haven't stumbled upon a recent discussion on this topic. How would a commute from Germany work? Assuming that FRA can't be used as a gateway. I am looking at a 2.5 hour train ride to CGN for the MEM flight, or 4.5 hours to LEJ for the CVG flight if I could jumpseat on a company flight. I realize that the routes can be changed by the customer and I realize I would lose an extra day off over gateway travel. I read that there is currently no international jumpseating, but does that apply to travel for work? Is there any protection for not showing at base on time if one or two scheduled JS flights cancel? Can a JS be used in combination with gateway from CVG or MEM to get to ANC or LAX/ONT?

Thank you for your consideration and responses.
There are no international gateways. Yes, you could JS on company metal from any European city. We had a captain living in Paris that regularly rode from LUX to HSV. There is no protection if you fail to show for a duty period. You have to declare a "gateway" airport if you are going to use the program. It is voluntary. You can use alternate travel to purchase a ticket form Europe for equal or lesser value of the price of your "gateway" ticket.
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Old 12-13-2021 | 04:36 PM
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Merry Xmas everyone. Quick question - New Hire Pay. $1600 a month for 4 months or completion of OE. With what I'm reading here on the forums of Atlas turnover, can new hires expect to complete OE quicker due to the lack of pilots? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 12-13-2021 | 06:01 PM
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Usually, it's the opposite because there are constantly new people in training with the churn at the bottom of the seniority list.
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Old 12-13-2021 | 07:01 PM
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Yes.

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Are there exception options in place for current employees and new hires?

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Old 12-13-2021 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman21
Are there exception options in place for current employees and new hires?

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I don't know how they're doing it. Heard there is a method for applying for religious or medical exemptions, but I have no clue if/who they're approving and the circumstances. I do know they told me in the interview that having the vaccine is a requirement to be offered the job.

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Old 12-13-2021 | 07:50 PM
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I don't know how they're doing it. Heard there is a method for applying for religious or medical exemptions, but I have no clue if/who they're approving and the circumstances. I do know they told me in the interview that having the vaccine is a requirement to be offered the job.

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Do you think you can apply for a medical/religious exemption just for the Covid jab but still submit to the other required vaccinations?
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Old 12-13-2021 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by HELOWING
Merry Xmas everyone. Quick question - New Hire Pay. $1600 a month for 4 months or completion of OE. With what I'm reading here on the forums of Atlas turnover, can new hires expect to complete OE quicker due to the lack of pilots? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
No, plan on 4 months at 1,600$ a month. 747 classes are in excess of 90 days. Good chance you'll be hitting 120th day before you even start OE and then going to full guarantee. The training center isn't staffed or designed to train the amount that they have down here in Miami and want to hire. You can plan for 1 day on 2 to 3 days off kind of schedule once into fixed base. We did 2 full motion sims in a span of 8 days for example.
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Old 12-13-2021 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by heavymetal101
No, plan on 4 months at 1,600$ a month. 747 classes are in excess of 90 days. Good chance you'll be hitting 120th day before you even start OE and then going to full guarantee. The training center isn't staffed or designed to train the amount that they have down here in Miami and want to hire. You can plan for 1 day on 2 to 3 days off kind of schedule once into fixed base. We did 2 full motion sims in a span of 8 days for example.
With the current issues regarding resignations and new hires does it look like the training could become even more delayed?

I heard just plan the full first 4 months at $1600 plus per diem as you said above, no chance of getting going earlier. I’m guessing the end of year has become very busy for HR now and also heard that the next 747 class has 27 in it, any idea what the Jan and Feb classes for 777 are looking like?
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Old 12-14-2021 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Egg320
With the current issues regarding resignations and new hires does it look like the training could become even more delayed?

I heard just plan the full first 4 months at $1600 plus per diem as you said above, no chance of getting going earlier. I’m guessing the end of year has become very busy for HR now and also heard that the next 747 class has 27 in it, any idea what the Jan and Feb classes for 777 are looking like?
Probably pretty small classes, they are not hiring much into that fleet right now. With the new MIA base, who knows.

Plan for the 4 months at $1600, the good thing is, with per diem first 3 months is effectively more like $4500/month (large part of the per diem is tax free).
Bring a car, buy groceries, cook your own food just like you would at home. It's not that expensive to live in the complex for 3 months. Unless you want it to be.
And plan ahead if you can. If (and its a big if, but who thinks COVID is going away anytime soon?) our COVID pay keeps on going for China, you'll catch up on the pay within the first few months on the line.
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