I guess you're new around here?



Welcome to Atlas, where the so-called "Collective Bargaining AGREEMENT" is really the work of just one man with the legal authority to shove it down the throats of the pilots at Atlas.

To answer your question, nobody agreed--or more precisely: RATIFIED--this document.

 

Beards - want to confirm they're allowed now?

Starting in October, hoping to avoid baby face.

 

Maybe brush up on your organized labor at Atlas history.

 

Yes they are, just be reasonable about it. Santa Claus is not an allowed style.

 

And you know a certain very minute few can and probably will spoil it for the rest of us

 

Its not the function of a Labor Union to cap my income either, yet they put a limit on OT without consulting the pilot group.
So yes, “temporary” visa are being used, not only by Atlas, Regionals too.

 

I'm aware of who is issuing this "temporary" visa instead of raising compensation to attract and retain US workers at these US airlines operating US registered aircraft (and in our case, for the US Government..). The question isn't who is doing what, the question is why are you OK with it? Would you be ok with opening hiring to EU Nationals too, making our chief recruiting competitor CargoLux? Every single foreign national we sponsor and hire lowers our chance at a better compensation package. Thats just a FACT. We should only be hiring US Citizens and legal permanent residents -- Just like every other major US airline.

Are Australian pilots less qualified than US Pilots? Absolutely not. Are they great people who I enjoy hanging out with? Absolutely. Will they work for less money than a US pilot? Yes.

Does every single Aussie we hire undermine our labor group? ABSOLUTELY.

This has turned from an occasional Australian who wants to work for Atlas to the company's chief recruiting tool. The roadshows in Australia are just a step too far. Every other question on any Atlas related board are about the E3 visa. New hire classes are 20+% foreign worker. It's ridiculous.

 

I don't think anybody is encouraging foreign labor to fly here beyond the E3 visa program. That program has been in place for a long while and, I'd argue, is appropriate given our relationship with Qantas flying from HNL. Where we see something new is the great drive to recruit from Australia with roadshows, etc. Here still, I wouldn't get too much heartburn because there's a limited number of pilots who are going to relocate across the planet and fly for us in the long term. This is not a strategic masterstroke.

This doesn't mean I'm happy that we're going on road shows while turning away viable, American pilots. We may not be acting in line with the spirit of these visas. That would be something for your representative, senator or others to look into. Tracking who's getting rejected by Atlas may be a valuable thing for us to do.

As long as we don't go beyond E-3 programs I personally favor vigilant inaction. Massive changes in ownership are on the horizon. We haven't seen any changes in leadership announced, but nobody in their right mind would announce major organizational changes until the Apollo deal closes. Even if we retain the same people in the same seats, their motivations will fundamentally shift under new ownership. Once we get an idea of who and what we'll be working with we can move forward productively.

 

I will be looking forward to starting with Atlas and a long prosperous career with them.

I know it sounds corny, but have thought about Atlas for a long while as well as freight operations. One of my first jobs was freight and looking forward to that role again.

It is simply not an opportunity available in Oz. If a great company like Atlas is now available, I would be crazy not to take the opportunity.

All the best for everyone. Take care.

Servo

 

Servo ..... mate... no one knows what RPT means outside of Australia for a start... its a very Ozzie term . Here its a 121 operation.

Also as per INA Sec. 214(b) INA Sec. 214(b) be careful about publicly stating you have intent to be here permanently when getting the E3 visa. Yes its possible with a good immigration attorney, but you could get your visa denied if you imply intent at the outset.