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Old 10-17-2022, 05:24 AM
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Can someone who has been through training describe the level of training provided, washout and pass rates?
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Old 10-17-2022, 10:13 AM
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Can someone who just completed the 6 day indoc PM me? Have some questions.
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Old 10-17-2022, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Vrefplus20 View Post
Can someone who has been through training describe the level of training provided, washout and pass rates?
This guy sums it up for all airlines.
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Old 10-17-2022, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Vrefplus20 View Post
Can someone who has been through training describe the level of training provided, washout and pass rates?
Rough numbers only: About 10% need extra sessions. About 5% don't make it. Different airlines do and have had significantly different wash rates. So I view this question as one of statistics rather than asking about whether performance to standards will be expected.

If this was a question about expectations, you will have to perform to standards.
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Old 10-17-2022, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Elevation View Post
Rough numbers only: About 10% need extra sessions. About 5% don't make it. Different airlines do and have had significantly different wash rates. So I view this question as one of statistics rather than asking about whether performance to standards will be expected.

If this was a question about expectations, you will have to perform to standards.
that's what I wanted to know, thanks
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Old 10-17-2022, 03:44 PM
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Old 10-17-2022, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Elevation View Post
Rough numbers only: About 10% need extra sessions. About 5% don't make it. Different airlines do and have had significantly different wash rates. So I view this question as one of statistics rather than asking about whether performance to standards will be expected.

If this was a question about expectations, you will have to perform to standards.
I donít believe the training failure rate is at 5%. This number be accurate if you include resignations and withdrawals for various reasons, but I do not believe that 5% donít make it by training failures.
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Old 10-18-2022, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Atlasvet View Post
I don’t believe the training failure rate is at 5%. This number be accurate if you include resignations and withdrawals for various reasons, but I do not believe that 5% don’t make it by training failures.
Good point! I'm including some but not all withdrawals and resignations in the "Don't make it" category. Since the quality of these numbers aren't as good as what I usually like to dig up from published stats, etc. it's probably a good thing for me to discuss my methods (or lack thereof) and weaknesses in my assertions.

Seems about 1 in 20 don't get through, but how this happens varies. We don't have published numbers that delineate people who resign to take a dream job from people who resign because they're not a good fit. So we can only go with direct observations and anecdotal data. That's also why about 5% and 10% were my rough wags at answering the person's questions. We have better data about who needs extra work since there are defined courses, and we can measure how many sims go into a particular candidate. But this number varies a little bit from class to class.

The poster's question, I believe, was legitimate since some airlines used to have extremely high fail rates. For someone using this job as a stepping-stone, it's a serious consideration. I think we have enough data to say, regardless of whether you like or dislike our courses, that our wash rates are in the range of "normal". 5% and 10% convey this idea with enough accuracy to help that person. In the past I shared some statistics with more robust data and effort put into them. I haven't put that level of attention into these.
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Old 10-19-2022, 06:09 AM
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At this point- I wouldnít be surprise to see hiring grind to a halt in 23í with possible furloughs.

Shipping rates are plunging, demand is weaking and all the billionaires are letting us know. Itís been a 7 year bill market for Atlas, and the good
times donít always roll- be prepared, itís ACMI after all. Donít forget that.
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Old 10-19-2022, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr View Post
At this point- I wouldnít be surprise to see hiring grind to a halt in 23í with possible furloughs.

Shipping rates are plunging, demand is weaking and all the billionaires are letting us know. Itís been a 7 year bill market for Atlas, and the good
times donít always roll- be prepared, itís ACMI after all. Donít forget that.
For all the years you've been spewing this garbage here, have you ever been right?

Thought so.
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